Altis or Jazz? ... which to buy?

[booest]

Jazz's boot can put 1 pram?

Who interested in buy?
buy together leh.. can bargain :D


Altis got gearbox problem??????

owners of these 2 cars please advice

[simplyadvanced]

buy together??

nbz you buy CAR also MO ah?

[swiftwing]

Boo, what happened to the van/pickup idea? :)

IIRC the gearbox issue is the CVT on some Honda model right? Let me ask my friend again, i remember he told me before.

[booest]

van not safe for kids... so scrap..

Car MO is best... really.. 1 sales person... :D

[dragoon20005]

maby swift better.Made in japan.The swift sports the best.

[booest]

maby swift better.Made in japan.The swift sports the best.


pai seh looking for a family car

[necroastr]

Driving my dad's Altis since he bought it 3~4 mths ago ... no problems leh.

Anyway I would prefer Altis over Jazz as a family car cos got bigger boot. Can put more stuffs ;)

[dragoon20005]

hmm family car...maby mazda 3 sp 5 door one big size plus powerful to carry 5 adults

[booest]

hmm family car...maby mazda 3 sp 5 door one big size plus powerful to carry 5 adults


price range S$52k~54k?

[dragoon20005]

not really but worth every dollar coz its made in japan so quality wise tip top

[lulu]

i still trust toyota:D

[Static-X]

Even though i dun rike Altis' looks, but given ur scenario, gotta choose Altis cos the boot is bigger then the Jazz ;)

[Dihudaxia]

Boot space is one thing. Boot design is another.

The Jazz and Altis have vastly different boot layout. One is more versatile than the other. Jazz being the versatile one. But of course having many ways to configure boot space comes at a cost to rear passenger space.

Depending on your need Boo, you can't go too wrong with either honestly.
If you consider the most metal for money, then Altis.

[booest]

Thanks guys :D

Family man I aM :D

[booest]

Boot space is one thing. Boot design is another.

The Jazz and Altis have vastly different boot layout. One is more versatile than the other. Jazz being the versatile one. But of course having many ways to configure boot space comes at a cost to rear passenger space.

Depending on your need Boo, you can't go too wrong with either honestly.
If you consider the most metal for money, then Altis.


to sit 4~5 with pram.. i think altis yah?

[Dihudaxia]

to sit 4~5 with pram.. i think altis yah?

4 - 5 with pram both also can.
4 - 5 with pram AND groceries, then Altis ba... Its value for money for sure.

[xiao`meow]

i tink with pram shouldn't be a problem... and abt gearbox issue.. so far my fit hasn't any issue at all...

if with groceries, to me, jazz has no problem.... but each to his own...

i feel tt jazz is more flexible... let's say oni u and ur wife and the baby are in the car and u need more bootspace, this is where the jazz's magic seats come in... fold down either one of the rear seats, more boot space liao..

but take note.. on full load, a stock jazz doesn't really have much power.. 1 thing to take note...

[booest]

i tink with pram shouldn't be a problem... and abt gearbox issue.. so far my fit hasn't any issue at all...

if with groceries, to me, jazz has no problem.... but each to his own...

i feel tt jazz is more flexible... let's say oni u and ur wife and the baby are in the car and u need more bootspace, this is where the jazz's magic seats come in... fold down either one of the rear seats, more boot space liao..

but take note.. on full load, a stock jazz doesn't really have much power.. 1 thing to take note...


osh!

[booest]

anyone want to get an Altis?

[idiot]

i suggest getting a wagon
more boot space + flexibility
cars like wish is very popular & meets your budget

[booest]

wish is like 60k.....out of budget

[hencpu]

wish is like 60k.....out of budget

i dunno bro, but IMHO its better to spend a few K more for 2-3 more seats or boot space...:D

ur own family is already 4 ppl, how bout ur parents or PIL? there are times when u might wanna go outing together or somewhere else...

[idiot]

wish is like 60k.....out of budget
wish is still within your budget i just checked
depends on vendor & your nego skills

if you are looking for these type 7 seaters still got airwave......

as for jazz pay a bit more can get edix 3X3 plus boot space

[xiao`meow]

wish is still within your budget i just checked
depends on vendor & your nego skills

if you are looking for these type 7 seaters still got airwave......

as for jazz pay a bit more can get edix 3X3 plus boot space
no.... wish is definitely out of his budget... there's no wish tt's 50+k.... those tt are quoted in newspapers are w/o coe...
ask around... wish is abt 65-69k...

[xiao`meow]

oh ya, boo.... airwave may be within ur budget... i can help u go ask....
it's basically an extended honda fit with a 1.5vtec engine...

i tink it would be abt 55-56k ba....

[scyeige]

no.... wish is definitely out of his budget... there's no wish tt's 50+k.... those tt are quoted in newspapers are w/o coe...
ask around... wish is abt 65-69k...
some PIs are asking for more... ie >$70k!!!!!

[idiot]

no.... wish is definitely out of his budget... there's no wish tt's 50+k.... those tt are quoted in newspapers are w/o coe...
ask around... wish is abt 65-69k...
look at the package also
like i said depends on the nego skills, especially for PI
eg don't take guaranteed 1st bid...


anyway lancer is very cheap now

[takeshi_umuro]

Honda Airwave is more than 60k...so it's out. Altis is good for family esp when booest wanted 4-5 person with 1 x pram.

Honda Jazz can fit 3 humans plus 1 pram very nicely. Just nice for small family. For booest's I would choose altis.

But do note that there are paint issues on current altis made in Thailand and worksmanship isn't exactly very great so do watch out for that. But other than that... good family car....

PS : Booest bro, u say earlier I might join in.....cos 2 weeks again still looking for car of around 1.6L - 1.8L after I got my license. But I book one liao so cannot join in else it's another MO liao LOL

[Maxwell]

look at the package also
like i said depends on the nego skills, especially for PI
eg don't take guaranteed 1st bid...


anyway lancer is very cheap now


lancer is cheap but think abt it again for all the other factors rather then cheap.

I learn my lesson and it is a good 1.

Dun always go for cheap cars.

[kinco135]

I think Altis are worth buying if u are considering the maintance in future....as ALTIS is a lot on the market, the spare parts should be cheaper. No Doubt. I have a ALTIS in my family and it works fine.

[dragoon20005]

last time i got a brand new 2004 Vios 3 months later give me a big headache brake spoilt door seal leaking etc.So i sold the stupid car before getting my hands on a Subaru Forester.Served me well plus did lots of mods on it.5 speed manual with DCCD,full straight thru exo and intake, 250bhp.Next mod is bigger turbo.

[booest]

last time i got a brand new 2004 Vios 3 months later give me a big headache brake spoilt door seal leaking etc.So i sold the stupid car before getting my hands on a Subaru Forester.Served me well plus did lots of mods on it.5 speed manual with DCCD,full straight thru exo and intake, 250bhp.Next mod is bigger turbo.


i stick to my altis family car

[kinco135]

last time i got a brand new 2004 Vios 3 months later give me a big headache brake spoilt door seal leaking etc.So i sold the stupid car before getting my hands on a Subaru Forester.Served me well plus did lots of mods on it.5 speed manual with DCCD,full straight thru exo and intake, 250bhp.Next mod is bigger turbo.


Guess such stuff happens 1 in a million. Hopefully not any 1 of us will kanna this from any made or model.

[evolute8]

altis 130km/h at 4200rpm the most...can't go faster than tat
underpowered engine

[takeshi_umuro]

it's used for family ferrying purposes. Thus engine as long as not so bad and can tahan the uphill slopes and carparks, I dun think booest will mind. In the first place, would you risk your family esp with a baby to go up to speed of 130km/h in SG? Altis is targetted at families not chiongers

No offence but I still think life is more impt than whether the car can go super duper fast etc. In SG can't race anw ..... of cos I wouldn't deny that if you got the extra cash can go for better cars but always your own life comes first lor

Peace to all

Btw I'm not a Toyota supporter or related to them and neither did I drive a toyota. I just feel that as long as one is comfortable with his own car can liao. Booest go test drive both and see if you comfortable with which and decide ba

[booest]

test drove all liaoz :D

excepy Jazz.... XM... come by my plaec can? :D

[takeshi_umuro]

lol okok me waiting for my coe ....haiz must wait till feb/mar then can collect car

[booest]

lol okok me waiting for my coe ....haiz must wait till feb/mar then can collect car


relac.... :D

[takeshi_umuro]

sianz mah so long..... :D

[booest]

sianz mah so long..... :D





longet better hahahahahaha no need to pay first hahahaha

you PI?

which car?

[takeshi_umuro]

nope first car dun dare to get PI....went to KM for civic 1.8

[booest]

nope first car dun dare to get PI....went to KM for civic 1.8


wah... fierce!!!!!!!

[takeshi_umuro]

why fierce leh??

[xiao`meow]

test drove all liaoz :D

excepy Jazz.... XM... come by my plaec can? :D
no prob.. aiya, just nw u should have sms-ed me.... i passed by ur place just now... went to vivo....

eh but take my ride as a rough gauge only... cos i already modded the air intake.. and may mod the suspension soon....

[booest]

no prob.. aiya, just nw u should have sms-ed me.... i passed by ur place just now... went to vivo....

eh but take my ride as a rough gauge only... cos i already modded the air intake.. and may mod the suspension soon....


i wanna try the spaec :D

[xiao`meow]

i wanna try the spaec :D
orrh okok... no prob... most prob nxt week ba if not in a hurry... this weekend busy paint+move room

[booest]

why fierce leh??


car fierce.... S$79k for the 2.0l version... even more fierce

[booest]

orrh okok... no prob... most prob nxt week ba if not in a hurry... this weekend busy paint+move room


move to dog house? hahahahahaha

[xiao`meow]

move to dog house? hahahahahaha
haa..... =X

[xiao`meow]

look at the package also
like i said depends on the nego skills, especially for PI
eg don't take guaranteed 1st bid...


anyway lancer is very cheap now
even after nego and take basic package for wish... quite impossible to get 50+k... the most i give it is 62~63K if lucky....

[xiao`meow]

Honda Airwave is more than 60k...so it's out. Altis is good for family esp when booest wanted 4-5 person with 1 x pram.

Honda Jazz can fit 3 humans plus 1 pram very nicely. Just nice for small family. For booest's I would choose altis.

But do note that there are paint issues on current altis made in Thailand and worksmanship isn't exactly very great so do watch out for that. But other than that... good family car....

PS : Booest bro, u say earlier I might join in.....cos 2 weeks again still looking for car of around 1.6L - 1.8L after I got my license. But I book one liao so cannot join in else it's another MO liao LOL
no ah.. airwave not 60K so much.. maybe a couple of K less...

anyway, i feel that boo's few choices for family car i tink would be limited to altis, city, fit/jazz, airwave.. if consider his budget...

[takeshi_umuro]

car fierce.... S$79k for the 2.0l version... even more fierce


lol i dun print money one lor....1.8 good enough....no family go can put more money

[booest]

kam sia to all how give me advice :D

really appreciate it :D

[booest]

lol i dun print money one lor....1.8 good enough....no family go can put more money


hoot!

[xiao`meow]

boo, another one to consider would be honda city.. iirc, i read tt the boot space is huge... beats altis..

[booest]

boo, another one to consider would be honda city.. iirc, i read tt the boot space is huge... beats altis..


noted

but city a bit funny

altis more altis???? jahahhaha

[xiao`meow]

noted

but city a bit funny

altis more altis???? jahahhaha
ahah ok laa
the facelifted city looks a bit better compared to the prefacelifted one

[takeshi_umuro]

lol ya city shape a bit strange..... airwabe price dropped?? if not from PI, I would think it's quite a good buy although some may feel it's under powered...

[booest]

lol ya city shape a bit strange..... airwabe price dropped?? if not from PI, I would think it's quite a good buy although some may feel it's under powered...


if I got money I goot New Stream liaoz lor

[xiao`meow]

lol ya city shape a bit strange..... airwabe price dropped?? if not from PI, I would think it's quite a good buy although some may feel it's under powered...
eh no leh.. if i not wrong, airwave price has always been around this price range.... when i last enquired a couple of mths ago, it was 58k.. nw dunno..

[takeshi_umuro]

if I got money I goot New Stream liaoz lor

ya but milleage hiong leh cum esp for me new driver sure buang the backside or side easily LOL

[booest]

eh no leh.. if i not wrong, airwave price has always been around this price range.... when i last enquired a couple of mths ago, it was 58k.. nw dunno..


you always get gangster price hahahahaha

[booest]

ya but milleage hiong leh cum esp for me new driver sure buang the backside or side easily LOL


Stream good lor....

see here

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=113257

[takeshi_umuro]

agreed by paper spec....but still I got my doubt on actual FC.....else rest is nice .... I like the internal design better than wish

[booest]

agreed by paper spec....but still I got my doubt on actual FC.....else rest is nice .... I like the internal design better than wish


agree... Civic inside very fierce one... sporty

[takeshi_umuro]

civic ok....actually I like hybrid better....was about to get hybrid....but scared if 4 years later i wanna sell/export no one buy....batt pack and motor cost 3k to replace if spoilt.....the 3k still not too bad but the sale/export thingy quite scary....

but anw if the 4 bid coe did not go thru for mine and KM ask me to top up then I will change to hybrid liao....

[cyberazi]

dude trust me the altis for pple like us is better.. coz very spacious

[booest]

civic ok....actually I like hybrid better....was about to get hybrid....but scared if 4 years later i wanna sell/export no one buy....batt pack and motor cost 3k to replace if spoilt.....the 3k still not too bad but the sale/export thingy quite scary....

but anw if the 4 bid coe did not go thru for mine and KM ask me to top up then I will change to hybrid liao....


bro... it is a trick they use.....

do not top up

[booest]

dude trust me the altis for pple like us is better.. coz very spacious


i Totally Trust you on this.:shakefist

[takeshi_umuro]

bro... it is a trick they use.....

do not top up

precisely that's what I heard...thus I will go for hybrid since they have ready stock.....but again if they pull a fast one then simple....dun buy.....no way to get me to fork in more money

[booest]

precisely that's what I heard...thus I will go for hybrid since they have ready stock.....but again if they pull a fast one then simple....dun buy.....no way to get me to fork in more money



hoot!

[Maxwell]

dun get Honda City.

What xm said is correct.

Any honda car boot beats the rest.

I was thinking of Honda City the other time.

But basic city does not come with air bags even ... funny right..

U got to pay abt 2k or so to get it upgrade so that it has air bags and abs lor...

IMO nv go for the city. U see on the road very very very little.

[Shrek]

dun get Honda City.

What xm said is correct.

Any honda car boot beats the rest.

I was thinking of Honda City the other time.

But basic city does not come with air bags even ... funny right..

U got to pay abt 2k or so to get it upgrade so that it has air bags and abs lor...

IMO nv go for the city. U see on the road very very very little.


so u rather they add 2k to the price and airbag/abs and no option to downgrade?

[Maxwell]

so u rather they add 2k to the price and airbag/abs and no option to downgrade?


There is a basic 1 without anything u pay abt 2K less from the price

[Shrek]

There is a basic 1 without anything u pay abt 2K less from the price

yah. but u sounded like u rather them sell it 2k more and add abs/airbag. without option to downgrade

[Maxwell]

yah. but u sounded like u rather them sell it 2k more and add abs/airbag. without option to downgrade


but car without airbag and abs are kinda dangerous imo

[xiao`meow]

ahhh paiseh... forgot tt city also has various models... anyway, the one i was refering to was the 1.5 vtec model, which has both abs and airbags.... i don't think the idsi engine has enough power...

[Maxwell]

ahhh paiseh... forgot tt city also has various models... anyway, the one i was refering to was the 1.5 vtec model, which has both abs and airbags.... i don't think the idsi engine has enough power...


yea the idsi model is bad man

[Shrek]

but car without airbag and abs are kinda dangerous imo

so add the 2k. they give u option to upgrade is better than they bundle all

[Shrek]

yea the idsi model is bad man


in terms of power, yah. the only 2 good pt is boot is decent size and fc is good.

[Shrek]

ahhh paiseh... forgot tt city also has various models... anyway, the one i was refering to was the 1.5 vtec model, which has both abs and airbags.... i don't think the idsi engine has enough power...

the 1.5 vtec fit for interesting.

[Maxwell]

in terms of power, yah. the only 2 good pt is boot is decent size and fc is good.


yea this i got to agree

[xiao`meow]

the 1.5 vtec fit for interesting.
tt one's good.. but quite rare in sg.. quite a lot of PIs don't bring it in..
a bit wasted though... i think it's because of the price.. a 1.5S fit costs 60+k... about the same or more than a swift sport...

[Maxwell]

tt one's good.. but quite rare in sg.. quite a lot of PIs don't bring it in..
a bit wasted though... i think it's because of the price.. a 1.5S fit costs 60+k... about the same or more than a swift sport...


wats the diff from jazz and fit ah?

[scyeige]

wats the diff from jazz and fit ah?
name... :P

[cyberdog]

name... :P:doh:

:laugh:

[cyberdog]

imho, Jazz is quite a chabor car unless it's totally black :o

[xiao`meow]

wats the diff from jazz and fit ah?
name....
and gt minor differences also... i read that some aftermarket brake discs can fit on the jazz, but when put on the fit, need to use EG6 civic calipers..
so i guess got some minor structural differences...

and currently, jazz and normal fit the front bumpers are also different... the jazz is using the sports model bumper.

[xiao`meow]

imho, Jazz is quite a chabor car unless it's totally black :o
no la... depends on how u style it also.. :D

http://www.opakracing.com/photogallery/11-25-04_HondaFit/images/spoonFit05_jpg.jpg

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/mugen_fit_specd.jpg

http://www.poweraxel.com/autosalon/as2004/mugen/image/fit_dynamite.jpg

k la.... don't OT in ah boo's thread already....

sorry boo, OT until lydat.. haha

[cyberdog]

boo not getting WISH meh :D

[longshao]

jazz is like a bit low leh, in front, go over hump very high chance of scratching.

of coz don say no skill or wat la, but go over hump mus go slowly lo. thats what i think.

other than that, both cars are ok.

[booest]

wish is knn at least 10k+more :(

[cyberdog]

wish is knn at least 10k+more :(10K spread over 7 years (84 months) is only $120 per month. Add in interest, you're looking at an additional of maybe $150 per month. WISH pwns Jazz away lor. Altis is good, but not as friendly for family especially if often driving maid, in-laws, stroller, MO items etc around :D With a WISH, you can deliver a lot of AegoM dah haha ok ok mai OT liao :o

[xiao`meow]

jazz is like a bit low leh, in front, go over hump very high chance of scratching.

of coz don say no skill or wat la, but go over hump mus go slowly lo. thats what i think.

other than that, both cars are ok.
at stock, i went over hump @ 50km/h also no issue...just a bit more uncomfortable.. but after doing a bumper replacement and adding side skirts, then i need to go over hump slowly, but not so slow, so far my car hasn't been scratched by humps yet... though this will be different once i change my coilovers.

[longshao]

at stock, i went over hump @ 50km/h also no issue...just a bit more uncomfortable.. but after doing a bumper replacement and adding side skirts, then i need to go over hump slowly, but not so slow, so far my car hasn't been scratched by humps yet... though this will be different once i change my coilovers.
i see. i first time drive jazz the sideskirt is very low. first time i drive is very kua zhang, i slow down until 10km/h, go over hump got the kat kat sound. then kana a bit scratch. :)

[takeshi_umuro]

booest...wanna apply PPS or not?? I thinking of applying CS-II....wanna go together?? (if you have decided to buy already)

[booest]

booest...wanna apply PPS or not?? I thinking of applying CS-II....wanna go together?? (if you have decided to buy already)


what is that sia?

me blur

[takeshi_umuro]

Paint Protection :D

[Maxwell]

Paint Protection :D


wats the damage?

[takeshi_umuro]

256

[Maxwell]

256


what it does can pm me?

thanks :hat1:

[booest]

hoot together?

[booest]

sian.. COE just went up :(

[takeshi_umuro]

yup expected....2k for 1.6L....close to 1k for 1.8L

just check my bid....went in liao. Expecting SE to come cut carrot liao

[takeshi_umuro]

what it does can pm me?

thanks :hat1:


http://www.unique1995.com/cs2/cs2.html

[Maxwell]

yup expected....2k for 1.6L....close to 1k for 1.8L

just check my bid....went in liao. Expecting SE to come cut carrot liao
how u check ur bid?

[takeshi_umuro]

http://ocoe.lta.gov.sg

key in your IC

[Maxwell]

sian.. COE just went up :(
must see 1 maybe the car price might stay there instead?

[Maxwell]

http://ocoe.lta.gov.sg

key in your IC
hmmm no results mean the car dealer never enter for me then?

[takeshi_umuro]

yup....

[takeshi_umuro]

must see 1 maybe the car price might stay there instead?

cos he haven't sign on the dotted line....so the car price might go up ....

[Maxwell]

cos he haven't sign on the dotted line....so the car price might go up ....


oh ok

[takeshi_umuro]

Maxwell....u buying under AD or PI?

[Maxwell]

Maxwell....u buying under AD or PI?
we dun OT his thread later he slam me.

i PM u

[delon]

I suggest ah boo go for Altis. I find Jazz's legroom slightly tight and a little underpowered. :P

[ashley1108]

wats the diff from jazz and fit ah?

Fit is directly from Japan i.e factoy settings everything is done in Japan. Thus when the car is brought in from PI, it's the exact same structure, settings and body shape of how japan fit would look like. As for jazz, it's factory setting is not done in Japan. Thus it's not the same as the jazz in japan when compared.

It's just like toyota cars in BM. For example camry 2.0 is made from thailand and engine made in China. Whereas PI 2.4G camry is directly from Japan.

An additional note to make, PI cars are 2 whel drive unlike authorised dealers, thus it does help to save cost for petrol consumption.

I'm working in World of wheels currently, a well-established PI company which is in the market for 6-7years. I have friends in Komoco, BM nd KM thus i have a little insight of such things.

Anyway booest i have pm you. :)

[bozo]

I suggest ah boo go for Altis. I find Jazz's legroom slightly tight and a little underpowered. :P
if you want to get a jazz, make sure you try and get the 1.5L version, the 1.3idsi is definitely underpowered!

[coolperson]

if you want to get a jazz, make sure you try and get the 1.5L version, the 1.3idsi is definitely underpowered!

ohh just wanna check with you.. so the jazz 1.5L is the Vtec engine? cause i initially cross out the jazz and fit partly because of the idsi engine

[booest]

is the airware cheaper or same price as Altis?

[superhero]

altis 130km/h at 4200rpm the most...can't go faster than tat
underpowered engine

sorry, but i sat in my friend's altis before.
hit 185-190km/hr on NSH.
RPM around 4600.

everything stock except for drop-in stainless steel air filter and bigger rims.

should be able to go higher if not for the ECU speed limitation.
a piggyback will solve the problem easily. :lookdown:

[superhero]

is the airware cheaper or same price as Altis?

airwave slightly more expensive.
the car feel quite stable around the corners, guess it's partly due to the centre fuel tank design.
a very easy and comfy ride.

or since you are looking at PI cars, maybe you can consider Wish.
spacious and good FC too.

[booest]

me looking to low price toyota or honda

[vic viper]

subaru 1.6MT not bad also...

53k plus 2.5% interest...

[booest]

subaru 1.6MT not bad also...

53k plus 2.5% interest...


big NO NO for me... fuel consumption is horrendous

[vic viper]

big NO NO for me... fuel consumption is horrendous



i collect my car den i tell u e fuel consumption...

collecting b4 new yr...

[booest]

MT not for me anyway
wife driving.

[vic viper]

she driving auto ar.....

[booest]

she driving auto ar.....


yeah

[bozo]

jazz is nice, and the space inside VERY large for a car of that size.

but never get the 1.3l idsi one, sure underpowered

[longshao]

i heard that jazz is not from japan wan, but fit is from japan

[selleron]

Jazz's boot can put 1 pram?

Who interested in buy?
buy together leh.. can bargain :D


Altis got gearbox problem??????

owners of these 2 cars please advice
Hi Booest,

I owned a Jazz before trading it in for an Altis. Let me share about the pros & cons before I tell you my preference.

Jazz
Pros - Great fuel consumption (15km/l 60Hw/40Tn), good built, comfortable ride, good seats, spacious for a hatchback, responsive gearbox, quiet engine, good sound insulation, good uphill pickup, boot space ok for family(pram, shopping items & baby bag)
Cons - Expensive, small back seat

Altis
Pros - Cheap, ok fuel consumption for an 1.6l(11.5km/l 60Hw/40Tn), spacious, fast & good resale value
Cons - Cheapskate tom yam car(average interior), slow pickup esp uphill and lousy lousy insulation(noisy-when rain u feel like u in NS training shelter)

I kinda regret trading in my Jazz for the altis but we must make do with what we have right? I will go for the Jazz/Fit if I don't mind paying more. Btw, both Jazz & Fit are the same vehicle but in Japan, there are 1.5l versions. The Jazz 1.4 & Fit 1.3 are the same vehicle if you look at the specs.

Hope this can help you decide better.

[booest]

kam sia

[xiao`meow]

i heard that jazz is not from japan wan, but fit is from japan
wrong assumption for the singapore version
afaik, both are made in japan

Hi Booest,

I owned a Jazz before trading it in for an Altis. Let me share about the pros & cons before I tell you my preference.

Jazz
Pros - Great fuel consumption (15km/l 60Hw/40Tn), good built, comfortable ride, good seats, spacious for a hatchback, responsive gearbox, quiet engine, good sound insulation, good uphill pickup, boot space ok for family(pram, shopping items & baby bag)
Cons - Expensive, small back seat

Altis
Pros - Cheap, ok fuel consumption for an 1.6l(11.5km/l 60Hw/40Tn), spacious, fast & good resale value
Cons - Cheapskate tom yam car(average interior), slow pickup esp uphill and lousy lousy insulation(noisy-when rain u feel like u in NS training shelter)

I kinda regret trading in my Jazz for the altis but we must make do with what we have right? I will go for the Jazz/Fit if I don't mind paying more. Btw, both Jazz & Fit are the same vehicle but in Japan, there are 1.5l versions. The Jazz 1.4 & Fit 1.3 are the same vehicle if you look at the specs.

Hope this can help you decide better.
nice analysis... :thumbsup:
best is to hear from one who's owned them both
but i feel the back seat space is actually ok leh.. very spaceous, compared to other hatches of this class.

[powersteer]

avoid the altis ... QC sucks .. many frens suffers from similar problems

[xiao`meow]

boo, how about the corolla axio
should be about sub 50k range

[booest]

boo, how about the corolla axio
should be about sub 50k range


if kenna 7% then i give up liaoz hahahaha

[xiao`meow]

if kenna 7% then i give up liaoz hahahaha
hmmm
quite possible car may kena hor...

[Xross.FiRE]

Personally I use the altis. I feel the only drawback would be the pickup. But I guess in sg, pickup isn't that important unless entering expressway, cannot just chiong in. Interior wise is fine, cannot compare to the civic but against the sunny or the lancer it is equal or better. The suspension is tuned to give comfort. Overall, u get what u pay. Maybe its best you pop down to sgaltis.com or the fit/jazz forums to read up and see how good or bad it is.

Finally, before you buy, must test drive. my 2 cents:hat1:

[takeshi_umuro]

boo, how about the corolla axio
should be about sub 50k range

Axios should be 60k as of now for PI....but when comes in....hard to say...

but based on last 2 models of corrolla and if it's taking over altis, high chance the start price would take on to be around 60k

Just took my dad's altis for a ride days ago.....not too bad as of drive. Pickup slightly better than Mazda 3....M3 sucks on pickup. But again if it's for family it should be good.... cos pretty decent price but I would still choose axios over altis cos no matter wat a newer model is still better. But news goes that axios is coming in only in 2008?

anyone got any update on this?

[booest]

takeshi.. you got your honda yet?

[takeshi_umuro]

tmr collecting :D

[booest]

tmr collecting :D


drive over lah.. we go eat wind hahahahah

[takeshi_umuro]

lol drive over leh.....I need to go put all the za ba lang accessories

[booest]

lol drive over leh.....I need to go put all the za ba lang accessories


you wanna zhng your car si boh? :D

[takeshi_umuro]

bo lar.....go put all the necessary stuff like alarm etc......crap so exp the car doesn;t come with a proper alarm

only immobiliser with std alarm

[booest]

bo lar.....go put all the necessary stuff like alarm etc......crap so exp the car doesn;t come with a proper alarm

only immobiliser with std alarm


oic... honda usually like that one

[takeshi_umuro]

not decided which car to buy yet?

airwave quite good also

but provided you are comfortable with PI

[booest]

not decided which car to buy yet?

airwave quite good also

but provided you are comfortable with PI


i wait for lucky draw hahahahah

[tckrto]

airwave definitely a good buy esp for ah boo. the boot space at the bag is fantastic! why i know? cause my bro owns 1 and haven driven it carrying 4 super big luggage sending my bro and his family to airport. FC is good too.

[booest]

airwave definitely a good buy esp for ah boo. the boot space at the bag is fantastic! why i know? cause my bro owns 1 and haven driven it carrying 4 super big luggage sending my bro and his family to airport. FC is good too.


airwave how much dah

[tckrto]

airwave how much dah

my bro bought it ard 62k last year ard april from Hup Long

maybe price have drop. u got to call and ask, but 1 turn off thing is no test drive.

the specs http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/10044_sp1.php

got moon roof version wan. additional 2k :evil2:

[xiao`meow]

airwave how much dah
iirc, tt time i told u 59k when i wanted to pass u the brochure.. dunno the price gt change or not

[booest]

iirc, tt time i told u 59k when i wanted to pass u the brochure.. dunno the price gt change or not


for me 55 max...

min loan how many years and min how much to loan?

[xiao`meow]

for me 55 max...

min loan how many years and min how much to loan?
eh can't remember...
have to check it out..
budget max 55k ah?
will help u ask...

[booest]

eh can't remember...
have to check it out..
budget max 55k ah?
will help u ask...


kam sia...

can cash up S$50k hahahahaha

[xiao`meow]

kam sia...

can cash up S$50k hahahahaha
up front 50k?
ooooo

[booest]

up front 50k?
ooooo


company loan.. 6 years... but reducing balance interest :D

[xiao`meow]

company loan.. 6 years... but reducing balance interest :D
ooo this i dunno
must ask

[booest]

ooo this i dunno
must ask


that is why i ask what is min loan amount?

[tckrto]

full cash best! :evil2: i think most bank minimum loan is 10k correct me if wrong.

[vic viper]

ah boo...faster buy....COE cheap cheap.....!!!!

[booest]

now is time :D

[PhiBer]

Ah Boo wan PI car let me know..
I recommend my sis to you ba.. =X

Airwave good, blerdy spacious MPV..
COE so cheap this time.. lol.. Hoot ah!

[booest]

Ah Boo wan PI car let me know..
I recommend my sis to you ba.. =X

Airwave good, blerdy spacious MPV..
COE so cheap this time.. lol.. Hoot ah!

easy... PM me price.
but loan I using my company loan :D for 50k :D

[PhiBer]

easy... PM me price.
but loan I using my company loan :D for 50k :D

means u upfront 50k(co. loan), the rest loan from finance co.?

[booest]

means u upfront 50k(co. loan), the rest loan from finance co.?


if company approve... yes:D

[Gollum]

if company approve... yes:D


lompang me home from SLS next time!!!

[booest]

lompang me home from SLS next time!!!


can.. if you are around my place :D but
usually i do not drive... car for wife and kids :D

[Gollum]

can.. if you are around my place :D but
usually i do not drive... car for wife and kids :D


heh..

i think once u hoot first car u sure upgrade within 3yrs

[booest]

heh..

i think once u hoot first car u sure upgrade within 3yrs


i do not think so.
too tight with 2 kids liaoz

[Gollum]

i do not think so.
too tight with 2 kids liaoz


its easier once u have the first car...changing car is much easier

[booest]

its easier once u have the first car...changing car is much easier


i hope so :D
but not thinking of that lah.

[Gollum]

i hope so :D
but not thinking of that lah.


logic cause already paying loan..by a few years numb leow so take slight more loan to get better car.

[PhiBer]

logic cause already paying loan..by a few years numb leow so take slight more loan to get better car.

LOL.. what a logic!!

Numb to PaP right? (pay and pay)..

[booest]

logic cause already paying loan..by a few years numb leow so take slight more loan to get better car.


that is usually the case if you do not have kids

[patrick_tham007]

if u wanna buy nissan or toyota can pm me, can recommend SE for better deal

[booest]

kam sia

[Maxwell]

so u decided le ah

[vrzonedriver]

Jazz's boot can put 1 pram?

Who interested in buy?
buy together leh.. can bargain :D


Altis got gearbox problem??????

owners of these 2 cars please advice

Altis made in Thailand.
Jazz to small for family. No big rear boot is not safe.


Look out for Corolla Axio 1.5. Made in Japan, Quiet engine.
If not Belta 1.3 also Made in Japan.
The technology is more advance, fuel saving, more resell value.

[scyeige]

Altis made in Thailand.
Jazz to small for family. No big rear boot is not safe.


Look out for Corolla Axio 1.5. Made in Japan, Quiet engine.
If not Belta 1.3 also Made in Japan.
The technology is more advance, fuel saving, more resell value.
what the hell does "No big rear boot is not safe" mean!?!?!

[booest]

what the hell does "No big rear boot is not safe" mean!?!?!


i believe he is trying to say that if you get hit at the back and the car like a jazz with no boot (crush zone).. thus more dangerous

[scyeige]

i believe he is trying to say that if you get hit at the back and the car like a jazz with no boot (crush zone).. thus more dangerous
not true

[xiao`meow]

i believe he is trying to say that if you get hit at the back and the car like a jazz with no boot (crush zone).. thus more dangerous
nonsense... if that were true.. many cars on the road would be a hazard... including mini cooper, golf, civic typeRs (EG/EK/EP & ES series), wish, odyssey, and many other hatches and mpvs...

correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that it's because of the body structure that makes these hatches safe... the spare tyre compartment is also there to absorb some of the rear impact during a collision

[scyeige]

nonsense... if that were true.. many cars on the road would be a hazard... including mini cooper, golf, civic typeRs (EG/EK/EP & ES series), wish, odyssey, and many other hatches and mpvs...

correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that it's because of the body structure that makes these hatches safe... the spare tyre compartment is also there to absorb some of the rear impact during a collision
heh...i can't be arsed to type out the whole reason why his statement holds no water... :P

[xiao`meow]

heh...i can't be arsed to type out the whole reason why his statement holds no water... :P
actually after reading his post again, it seems like he's a toyota fanboy.
but sadly, i think he's really really misinformed

[zomber38]

Ehh, dunno if you bought already lar.

Here's my take on Jazz/Fit

Basically its the same. Both our Jazz/Fit is born and bred in Japan. Our Tom-Yam friends up north also makes them, but not imported in S'pore.

The Good:

Fuel Consumption Wise, me driving auto, can hit about 14.9KM/litre after about 1 yr.

Mine is 1.3/1.4 iDSL engine, so pickup is only average. However the Jazz/fit comes with a very smooth CVT transmission with very smooth gear change.

The good thing about the Jazz is the magic sits behind, and the spacious front
If you compare the Suzuki Swift and Jazz, you can find the big difference in interior in terms of space.

Also, there are many folding variations to the sits behind, and allows you to fit in even a 37" CRT TV (boxed) / Large Colour HP laser Printer. ( I tried before..hehe)

Also, its in the market for quite long, a lot of spare parts (2nd hand) are readily available, via the fit and jazz forum (in cause u buang lar). Happened to me also...

The bad:

Default ICE from KM not so good, the alarm (fitted in S'pore) not so good also. Insurance for Honda higher (not confirmed).

My 2 cents worth.

[tckrto]

wahahaha si beh funny leh, hatchback get hit at the back will be more dangerous wahahaha. If u drive sedan let big container truck hit one time jialat jialat still the same outcome wan lah :D sometimes getting hit at the back all depends on luck wan lah :)

[tUx]

Look out for Corolla Axio 1.5. Made in Japan, Quiet engine.
If not Belta 1.3 also Made in Japan.
The technology is more advance, fuel saving, more resell value.

The local new-gen Corolla that will be coming in will have 4-wheel disc brakes bo.. The PI-ed Corolla I see is front disc/rear drum setup leh and the ride height quite high.

i drive the G9 corolla 1.5 until a bit dulan. not enough power :( tt time should have ask my dad get the 1.6 :laugh: wonder if the Axio 1.5 will also end up short on expressway overtaking

[xiao`meow]

Ehh, dunno if you bought already lar.

Here's my take on Jazz/Fit

Basically its the same. Both our Jazz/Fit is born and bred in Japan. Our Tom-Yam friends up north also makes them, but not imported in S'pore.

The Good:

Fuel Consumption Wise, me driving auto, can hit about 14.9KM/litre after about 1 yr.

Mine is 1.3/1.4 iDSL engine, so pickup is only average. However the Jazz/fit comes with a very smooth CVT transmission with very smooth gear change.

The good thing about the Jazz is the magic sits behind, and the spacious front
If you compare the Suzuki Swift and Jazz, you can find the big difference in interior in terms of space.

Also, there are many folding variations to the sits behind, and allows you to fit in even a 37" CRT TV (boxed) / Large Colour HP laser Printer. ( I tried before..hehe)

Also, its in the market for quite long, a lot of spare parts (2nd hand) are readily available, via the fit and jazz forum (in cause u buang lar). Happened to me also...

The bad:

Default ICE from KM not so good, the alarm (fitted in S'pore) not so good also. Insurance for Honda higher (not confirmed).

My 2 cents worth.
insurance higher only involves cars frm KM...
it'll be cheaper if u get insurance from outside

[raceguysg]

Altis for me... as a passenger, feels tt Altis more comfortable den the Jazz

[naro]

Vios lah.. Altis very ah-pek..

[glidingqy]

Vios lah.. Altis very ah-pek..

The new Vios look nicer also :thumbs_up