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booest
August 25th, 2007, 12:45 PM
I got 3 person on my list.

I consulted a lawyer.
This is the reply.....

Personally I'm not sure if the fact that the Sub Court has turned down Odex's application against PacNet for disclosure of the personal particulars of its subscribers will have any impact on the former's claims against the parties whom it already has obtained information on.

At this juncture, it would seem that the Court is not determining the merits of Odex's claim, but merely whether it is entitled to the information it is seeking. Therefore even if it may be argued that the information had been improperly obtained, Odex may still be able to prove infringement of copyright.

However, as you have highlighted, the question does remain whether the claimant is entitled to the sum that they are claiming. For starters, it may help if you have a list of the persons who have received the demand letters and see if they're prepared to collectively get a lawyer to represent them.

If the parties are minors, then they will need the approval of their parents/guardians.

so do hold on first. This will take a while.

On the settlement side, 2 issue have been highlighted to Odex on my side.

1. The settlement amount is just too much.
2. The letter of undertaking..... Com'on we all think it was ok to download anime. and to what extend is it illegal we need Judge Lau to update us.

isidore
August 25th, 2007, 12:47 PM
fighto! fighto!

zapp!
August 25th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Boo bro - thumbs up and a pat on the back for u man.

Ultimate Chicke
August 25th, 2007, 12:49 PM
And thirdly, ODEX STILL HAS NO RIGHT TO BACKDATE. I want to especially highlight that they are backdating to even before the licensing information was first displayed on wikipaedia. >_>

booest
August 25th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Boo bro - thumbs up and a pat on the back for u man.


people might label me a "sold-out"

only those who really know me will know.
Do you think Xedo_Defence's action is a one man thing?


We all need to do out work to help.

zapp!
August 25th, 2007, 12:56 PM
people might label me a "sold-out"

only those who really know me will know.
Do you think Xedo_Defence's action is a one man thing?


We all need to do out work to help.
sigh...but hot heads are common. Let your action speak for itself just like a certain company. Ultimately if your motive is pure, truth will surface one.

cyberazi
August 25th, 2007, 01:00 PM
wooohooo

Jhyun
August 25th, 2007, 01:13 PM
people might label me a "sold-out"

only those who really know me will know.
Do you think Xedo_Defence's action is a one man thing?


We all need to do out work to help.

Irrational comments appear from time to time...that's part of life lah dun take it too hard

cflee
August 25th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Irrational comments appear from time to time...that's part of life lah dun take it too hard

even if there's a crowd going to xedodefense, we'll definitely still have the rest here.. let's not shoot them for ranting about booest or vrz, since everyone is entitled to their opinion just like we are.

darKHell
August 25th, 2007, 02:04 PM
i believe everyone has the same starting point of trying to help ppl, be it a all out against with o--x or a more calm and peaceful resolution.

But at this point, the whole event has just reached another high point, and wat might the future holds is still unclear, so lets just cooperate with whoever is trying to help.

either way, everyone will learn a valuable lesson from this incident..

---
boo, jia you :)

Jhyun
August 25th, 2007, 03:37 PM
even if there's a crowd going to xedodefense, we'll definitely still have the rest here.. let's not shoot them for ranting about booest or vrz, since everyone is entitled to their opinion just like we are.

Actually, i dun mean xedodefense is wrong....
it's just that this affects all of us here.... we should stand united...
Although the methods may vary...
But ultimately we just want to protect our rights

weib
August 25th, 2007, 03:48 PM
yes lets all be mature about this.
Everyone has their own perspective, their own views; RESPECT IT
If you can convince them, good so be it, if not lets not result to flaming/defame them.

I've already told the guys to cool it over at XD, and i'll actively moderate their comments. To all those who feel offended here, i apologise on behalf of them.

The ultimately stand is we need to band together and work as one, united we stand, divded we fall..thats what they want to do..divide and conquer.

Xavior
August 25th, 2007, 04:29 PM
mmmm? now those who have the letters instead can counter sue odex liao ma. lol.

n00biE
August 25th, 2007, 05:31 PM
U sue them only the lawyers make the cash and u get nothing in return.

dillion
August 25th, 2007, 05:42 PM
...


question, aren't they wacking the account holder and not the real person who downloads? I mean to sue a 10 year old for 5k isn't very profitable.

I'm also sure the letters will have expiry dates.

dondon
August 25th, 2007, 08:25 PM
yes lets all be mature about this.
Everyone has their own perspective, their own views; RESPECT IT
If you can convince them, good so be it, if not lets not result to flaming/defame them.

I've already told the guys to cool it over at XD, and i'll actively moderate their comments. To all those who feel offended here, i apologise on behalf of them.

The ultimately stand is we need to band together and work as one, united we stand, divded we fall..thats what they want to do..divide and conquer.

Now people are united cuz they have a common goal..:)
It is not simply everyone banding together to do something, but as many true fans had indicated, what's the future?
But thinking of the future,
1)wat can we all do to help broaden the animae fan base,
2) help animae fan to produce more great work by supporting their work,etc