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bigsale
November 3rd, 2007, 12:42 PM
Singapore's fast growth is beginning to be expensive. Increasing prices in just about everything has overshadowed the city state's prosperity in the last four years.

THE city-state has been hit by an unceasing bout of price increases that has overshadowed the city’s prosperity in the past four years.

The latest series of price hikes came recently almost days within each other on household necessities like bread, noodle and live chicken (by an average of 20%) – and bus fares by one or two cents.

(This came only a year after fares of buses and trains were raised by one to three cents.)

Hardly had the public time to ponder the impact when the government dropped another bombshell. It substantially raised the Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) rates for the third time this year.

This will hit the pockets of some 800,000 car-owners, not to mention buses and lorries.

Under the system, they are charged electronically every time they use certain stretches of roads and highways during busy hours, according to places and times.

The peak charges will go up on Monday by $1.50 to $5.00 – or 43% at the worst point. Others are slightly cheaper.

Incredibly this is the third time in 2007 that ERP rates are raised, and the public protests have been uncomplimentary and loud.

Inflation is at its worst here in 12 years and has become the people’s biggest worry today. For many, the high costs are blurring the Singapore Dream.

Worst affected is the broad middle class, which is already paying dearly for the high oil price and a punishing five-to-seven per cent rise in the Goods and Services Tax (GST).

Since the beginning of the year, a wide range of products and services – including housing, hospital and medical care, education, electricity – has been skyrocketing.

Hardly a week passes without an announcement or two of some price or government fee going up.

There are two immediate effects. The value of money is dropping by the week, and savings are discouraged since consumer prices are rising faster than interest the banks pay on deposits

Some other recent price hikes:

> Electricity. Costs up by 4% between October and December. In the last quarter, they had been increased by 9%.

> Fees in certain schools up 10%-12%; university fees had been raised earlier. One special needs school doubled its fee.

> Average hospital bills were up by 10% to 30% with subsidised class C wards chalking up the highest percentage increase. Polyclinic charges were also raised.

> Cigarette prices went up by some 40 cents a 20-package to S$11.60, or 3.6%.

There were hikes on cable TV, car insurance, car parking and postal charges, as well as goods from milk to Milo, cooking oil to coffee, canned foods, processed foods, wheat products – and many other items at supermarkets.

The government appears unable to take action to stop the epidemic, a contrast to the first-generation government during such crises.

It launched NTUC Fairprice in 1973, a workers cooperative, to stem out profiteering on rice and other necessities.

And ministers and parliamentarians at the time would move around marketplaces and shops, appealing to shopkeepers to be sensitive to people’s financial needs.

Like previous inflationary times, this one is largely imported, the result of higher oil and other imported products.

The second cause is a robust Singapore economy, which has been growing at an average of 7.6% a year since 2004. This year 8% is expected. It creates demand.

Business has been relatively strong, salaries have risen (civil servants just got a 6% pay hike) and unemployment is the lowest in 10 years.

But so strong and persistent is inflation that many Singaporeans feel they are the poorer for it.

Part of the cause is the government, whose priorities are economic growth and asset accumulation (for foreign investments) – even at the expense of a higher cost of living.

To that end, it has increased GST from five to seven per cent and may eventually reach 10 per cent. Fees for public services are being raised to ensure no drop in Treasury collection.

Deficit budget, although not entirely unknown in Singapore, is a very rare happening.

Many young professionals who just start off in life are worried that the sharp run-up in property prices (a boon for 85% homeowners) has made it virtually impossible for them to buy a flat.

Some are putting off marriage or raising children.

The people see high prices as being here to stay – a new feature of life in a fast over-crowding city that wants to see a population of seven million.

Mr Lee Kuan Yew has said that Singapore is not only a developed country, but occupies ‘the top half’ of the First World.

Keeping it there not only brings wealth but also a new painful structure of expensive living comparable to the likes of Paris and Tokyo.

Understandably inflation has become a hot debate subject.

Blogger ‘Raul77’ points out that Singapore has neither land-size nor natural resources, so “it can either be a 1st World country or a poor one. No third way about it.”

As a result, life is always stressful, and those who can’t take it are leaving for quieter, bigger countries.

This is tough for the middle class and working class, which are just struggling for a living amidst the perceived wealth, unhappy and with few choices in life.

To which Nornan Lee replies: “If Singapore is not worth living, then nowhere is worth living.”

Source: http://thestar.com.my/columnists/story.asp?file=/2007/11/3/columnists/insightdownsouth/19360112&sec=Insight%20Down%20South

Hurricaneboi
November 3rd, 2007, 01:31 PM
nothing is getting cheaper here ba...economic growth + inflation...just hope it doesn't turn into runaway inflation if not we all hong gan liao.

senru
November 3rd, 2007, 01:56 PM
im just pissed off wif the bus company... which keep increasing prices but doing nothing to maintain the buses but a bunch of other stuff. and hw often do u need to surf net on the bus??
[img=http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5512/dsc00275rf7.th.jpg] (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00275rf7.jpg)

Puddie
November 3rd, 2007, 01:57 PM
sigh..

ktk
November 3rd, 2007, 02:30 PM
GST 5-7% lan pa.

its more like 15% ...

Ki33ran
November 3rd, 2007, 02:39 PM
GST 5-7% lan pa.

its more like 15% ...

hahahahaa.

yihfeng
November 3rd, 2007, 02:49 PM
GST 5-7% lan pa.

its more like 15% ...
Hmmm? How?

It is inevitable. The unemployment rate of SG is ridiculously low. At that low level, employers will be finding it hard to employ people, which means they have to pay people more, which means prices of good will go up.

Nothing is all good :)

harddiskppl
November 3rd, 2007, 08:38 PM
Hmmm? How?


Although GST is 7%, hawkers have risen their prices by an average of 50cents. A plate of chicken rice used to cost $2 or 2.50, but now $3 or $3.50? Some simple calculations:
0.5/2 = 25% more for chicken rice..Isn't it more than 7% since the working class take hawker food everyday. plus coffee (0.80-0.60)/0.60= 33%
Average increase we are paying for these 2 commodities would be 29% more.

Somehow inflation isn't just the 7% GST.It's multiplied much more as it moves downwards. There are other hidden costs which are transfered here and there.


Hmmm? How?

It is inevitable. The unemployment rate of SG is ridiculously low. At that low level, employers will be finding it hard to employ people, which means they have to pay people more, which means prices of good will go up.

Nothing is all good :)

I think it's a matter of demand and supply for pay. The harder it is to find a particular kind of talent, the more companies have to pay to recruit and retain. But that doesn't mean prices of goods will definitely go up due to full employment. I do agree it will affect peoples' purchasing power somehow if you have more unemployed people; however, prices of goods are caused by demand and supply as well. Let's cite an example: The most common goods are we HAVE to buy are neccesities like food, water, rental, electricity, toilet paper etc. If MORE people buy these goods, prices will rise due to demand, assuming supply is the same. If you wonder why demand for these goods are going up, then think about our expanding population, and you will find the answer. More people, (FTs, PRs etc) are moving into Singapore, and causing an inflationary hike due to increased demand.

danielpng
November 4th, 2007, 01:13 AM
that's the trade off if we want low unemployment rate..

with low unemployment, it only leads to inflation and increase in prices. Another point would be that the standard of living increased, more demand for normal goods rather than inferior goods..

So end of the days, it's the poorer families that are going to suffer from this trade off.. Just got to accept it, and get on with life..

harddiskppl
November 4th, 2007, 01:26 AM
that's the trade off if we want low unemployment rate..

with low unemployment, it only leads to inflation and increase in prices. Another point would be that the standard of living increased, more demand for normal goods rather than inferior goods..

So end of the days, it's the poorer families that are going to suffer from this trade off.. Just got to accept it, and get on with life..


actually inflation affects everybody. My poor stat board salary is already so much below market rates and yet they keep delaying the pay revision. now really starting to buay song already.
I think my quality of life is deteriorating and i will have to switch to "inferior goods" soon..:(

patsie
November 4th, 2007, 01:27 AM
that's the trade off if we want low unemployment rate..

with low unemployment, it only leads to inflation and increase in prices. Another point would be that the standard of living increased, more demand for normal goods rather than inferior goods..

So end of the days, it's the poorer families that are going to suffer from this trade off.. Just got to accept it, and get on with life..

yeah.. especially prices of stuff like flour, bread increasing so significantly, how to get by!

harddiskppl
November 4th, 2007, 01:28 AM
yeah.. especially prices of stuff like flour, bread increasing so significantly, how to get by!

eat rice more lor. That's what im doin !

danielpng
November 4th, 2007, 01:52 AM
i cant help but to whine at all these..

Though sometimes government can be very irritating by constant increasing ERP prices and petrol companies increasing the price of fuel, even though they're still earning big bucks.. Look at the current increased ERP price on CTE, 1 morning drive to work can cost you up to $6.. wtf man..

But looking at the entire picture as a whole, comparing to other countries, Singapore isn't that bad a place afterall.. The GST we pay comparing with big cities in US, Europe, Australia, i think we're considered not that bad la.. Just gotto adapt to changes around us..

yihfeng
November 4th, 2007, 06:50 AM
I think it's a matter of demand and supply for pay. The harder it is to find a particular kind of talent, the more companies have to pay to recruit and retain. But that doesn't mean prices of goods will definitely go up due to full employment. I do agree it will affect peoples' purchasing power somehow if you have more unemployed people; however, prices of goods are caused by demand and supply as well. Let's cite an example: The most common goods are we HAVE to buy are neccesities like food, water, rental, electricity, toilet paper etc. If MORE people buy these goods, prices will rise due to demand, assuming supply is the same. If you wonder why demand for these goods are going up, then think about our expanding population, and you will find the answer. More people, (FTs, PRs etc) are moving into Singapore, and causing an inflationary hike due to increased demand.
Supply can easily keep up with demand in most circumstances. The cost of production is significantly increased if you have to pay more $$$ for substandard workers because you can't find the ones you want...

with low unemployment, it only leads to inflation and increase in prices. Another point would be that the standard of living increased, more demand for normal goods rather than inferior goods..
Exactly!

So end of the days, it's the poorer families that are going to suffer from this trade off.. Just got to accept it, and get on with life..
I'd say more welfare payments would be good. But not too much. Unlike other under-developed countries, everyone in Singapore pretty much has a fair go in life. Easy access to education etc. If one works hard and smart, one will be well-off, and the rich should be rewarded for their hardwork.

However, more support should be given out to level the playing field. Disabled people need more support (money + anti-discriminatory laws), poor/dysfunctional families need support so that their kids grow up in the right envioronment, etc.

But yea, at the end of the day, I think in a country like Singapore, if you aren't disabled or aren't from a dysfunctional family or isn't from an older generation where facilities weren't that good, there is only one person you can blame if you are poor: yourself. Either you didn't study hard enough at school, you are not working hard enough, not working smart enough, or just want too kiasu and want too much stuff that's why you feel like you are poor when you aren't...

Though sometimes government can be very irritating by constant increasing ERP prices and petrol companies increasing the price of fuel, even though they're still earning big bucks.. Look at the current increased ERP price on CTE, 1 morning drive to work can cost you up to $6.. wtf man..
Can't afford a car, don't drive...

arcsaber
November 4th, 2007, 07:21 AM
How much help frm PAP... Lets vote for them again :/

sweetenham
November 4th, 2007, 02:13 PM
This is how the rich are getting richer?????

Although GST is 7%, hawkers have risen their prices by an average of 50cents. A plate of chicken rice used to cost $2 or 2.50, but now $3 or $3.50? Some simple calculations:
0.5/2 = 25% more for chicken rice..Isn't it more than 7% since the working class take hawker food everyday. plus coffee (0.80-0.60)/0.60= 33%
Average increase we are paying for these 2 commodities would be 29% more.

Somehow inflation isn't just the 7% GST.It's multiplied much more as it moves downwards. There are other hidden costs which are transfered here and there.




I think it's a matter of demand and supply for pay. The harder it is to find a particular kind of talent, the more companies have to pay to recruit and retain. But that doesn't mean prices of goods will definitely go up due to full employment. I do agree it will affect peoples' purchasing power somehow if you have more unemployed people; however, prices of goods are caused by demand and supply as well. Let's cite an example: The most common goods are we HAVE to buy are neccesities like food, water, rental, electricity, toilet paper etc. If MORE people buy these goods, prices will rise due to demand, assuming supply is the same. If you wonder why demand for these goods are going up, then think about our expanding population, and you will find the answer. More people, (FTs, PRs etc) are moving into Singapore, and causing an inflationary hike due to increased demand.

spivia
November 4th, 2007, 02:24 PM
i cant help but to whine at all these..

Though sometimes government can be very irritating by constant increasing ERP prices and petrol companies increasing the price of fuel, even though they're still earning big bucks.. Look at the current increased ERP price on CTE, 1 morning drive to work can cost you up to $6.. wtf man..

But looking at the entire picture as a whole, comparing to other countries, Singapore isn't that bad a place afterall.. The GST we pay comparing with big cities in US, Europe, Australia, i think we're considered not that bad la.. Just gotto adapt to changes around us..

ya the other countries tax more like UK, but the kids dun have to pay for education, so they pay back in terms of tax.

spivia
November 4th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Can't afford a car, don't drive...

what about people has has to drive to earn? like outdoor sales? so their pay has just been cut due to the 4 times of petrol rising in Oct? ask company to pay more allowance? products become more expensive?

but all these rising is gd, soon i will find japan cheap enough to live in , let more rising come , long live PAP

yihfeng
November 4th, 2007, 02:45 PM
what about people has has to drive to earn? like outdoor sales? so their pay has just been cut due to the 4 times of petrol rising in Oct? ask company to pay more allowance? products become more expensive?
You know full well that isn't the point. There are plenty of singaporeans out there that HAS to have a car no matter the cost. Fact is that plenty of singaporeans live just fine without a car. A car isn't a neccesity. It is an artificial want created by singaporeans just because they can't have it cheaply...

freestyler_andy
November 4th, 2007, 02:51 PM
im just pissed off wif the bus company... which keep increasing prices but doing nothing to maintain the buses but a bunch of other stuff. and hw often do u need to surf net on the bus??
[img=http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5512/dsc00275rf7.th.jpg] (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00275rf7.jpg)

thats the nokia wireless bus right?

ur point is irrelevant... that wireless internet service is obviously sponsored and paid for by nokia to promote their phones with wifi, not SBS...

XTimX
November 5th, 2007, 10:36 AM
by 2050 , I forsee 60% GST.

gohdorothy567
November 5th, 2007, 01:19 PM
die liao, hard to survive in here as things are going to be more expensive each year with increasing in price.

Zerocool
November 5th, 2007, 03:50 PM
i cant help but to whine at all these..

Though sometimes government can be very irritating by constant increasing ERP prices and petrol companies increasing the price of fuel, even though they're still earning big bucks.. Look at the current increased ERP price on CTE, 1 morning drive to work can cost you up to $6.. wtf man..

But looking at the entire picture as a whole, comparing to other countries, Singapore isn't that bad a place afterall.. The GST we pay comparing with big cities in US, Europe, Australia, i think we're considered not that bad la.. Just gotto adapt to changes around us..

Well this is the trap that they want u to fall into... when we do comparison we need to compare apple with apple, they may have higher tax than us but l@@k why? Well L@@k @ their benefits, for us, i dun mind if the tax increase but in terms of health care etc the gov foots most of the bill

yihfeng
November 5th, 2007, 05:47 PM
Well this is the trap that they want u to fall into... when we do comparison we need to compare apple with apple, they may have higher tax than us but l@@k why? Well L@@k @ their benefits, for us, i dun mind if the tax increase but in terms of health care etc the gov foots most of the bill

Obviously the grass on the other side of the fence is greener :P I'm sure 80% of the people complaining of the low tax rate now will be complaining if tax rates hit 30-50%...

I'd rather keep tax low, and let each man hold his own fate in his hands :)

Kube
November 5th, 2007, 08:11 PM
All this whining is interesting because it's coming from a hardware site. Most of the members will have spent more than the usual amount of money on their rigs and extras. Compared to your average man who maybe buys a Dell every 5 years, I'd say it's alot!

Thought I'm a singaporean, IMHO, most of the things we have, we simply don't NEED. Perhaps some of you REALLY do have the right to complain, and I know of friends that are poor and can't afford hardwarez. Most of us, however, don't.

spivia
November 10th, 2007, 12:39 AM
You know full well that isn't the point. There are plenty of singaporeans out there that HAS to have a car no matter the cost. Fact is that plenty of singaporeans live just fine without a car. A car isn't a neccesity. It is an artificial want created by singaporeans just because they can't have it cheaply...

well for me it is a necessity , no car no work no money, thats y i have a 16 yr old lau pok car:thumbs_up