2008 Nissan GT-R

[skyline34_]

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Finally after years of waiting, the legend is about to make a comeback.

This time round, the GT-R will be solely GT-R, no Skyline association whatsoever. Nissan made the decision to split the GT-R and Skyline tag a few years back in order to distinguish the GT-R as a true performance car. It made good Business sense too as this will give the new GT-R a brand new identity without the confusion of a Skyline heritage.

The new GT-R is a mighty fine design. Engineering wise, I'm sure it's going to be a huge success too. Nissan did explicitly state that the benchmark for the new GT-R was a Porsche and I'm expecting a decent performance from this car. Clocking 7:38 at the nurburgring is a nice credential for the new GT-R too.

However, something seems to be missing.

The car is fine if one doesn't know too much about the Skyline heritage. But somehow, this car just doesn't look right if you consider the previous GT-R, especially R34. Firstly, the chassis looks so 350Z-ish. Nissan claimed that they built the new GT-R from scratch, ignoring the chassis from the R34. Well, it makes perfect sense to design a new performance car from scratch since Nissan is touting the new GT-R to be something of a evolution. But I can't help but suspect that the Nissan team leveraged on their knowledge of the 350Z chassis to come up with the new GT-R. Again from a practical point of view, it makes perfect sense. Also, this car seems to be , if I may say, a practical supercar. Nissan's intent of having a high performance car practical for everyday usage is noble. But is it necessary?

When Carlos Ghosn took over the helms of Nissan during those trouble times, he initiated many reforms to salvage Nissan and brought it firmly back onto the road to recovery. For that, I am most thankful. But with that recovery also came an injection of practicality that translated into good financial sense but also resulted in the loss of a soul. I'm not surprised that this new GT-R turned out to be sleek, elegant, fast but Soul-less. I'm certain this new GT-R will be a massive hit but it just would not feel the same again.

[international]

Look, 350Z was a "new trend" kind of design. Who ever is the head of designs at Nissan would have a strong infleunce on the overall appearence on the Nissan range. Being a BMW nutter, I know the inside story behind the evolution of BMW's design line-up which all follow very similar if not same design schemes.

The same goes down with the Nissan family. I did read somewhere that the chassis base would be that of the Z33 family which also included the bastarded V35 Skyline. Not only did the two cars shared the same chassis as well as engine which just to made matters worse there was no V35 which effectively meant that there was a missing generation gap in the Skyline GTR line-up. Dont even mention V36 to me, I thought it was totally just a pure face lift of the V35 range.

R35 did sound interesting considering that Nissan did not continue with the numbers after V36 to have an R37, but instead remained to use R35. This is an indication to us that this car is different to the V series Skyline. But having already done some research on the platform, it was "highly" likely that the R35 chassis was based on the Z33.

It is kind of hard to explain but by the looks of things, Nissan has a range of "base platforms" which literally means its the base platform for their cars. The Nissan FM range included the Z33, V35 and a couple of other cars. R35 however is based on the Nissan PM which sources indicate both chassis to be pratically the same with the only change in terms of where the engine is mounted. Nissan PM chassis allows the engine to be mounted behind the front wheel axle same to that of all BMWs for better handling. This should also indicate slightly longer front length of the bonnet. But dont expect much other than that.

To be honest, I am a little disappointed in the fact that the GTR is no longer a inline 6. However once again, the VR38DETT engine on the R35 looks like it was derived from the VQ engine used on the 350Z and V35/V36 Skyline.

What is my conclusion? I hate how it looks now...R34 in my mind will be the very last GTR that will ever cease to exist.

[Kisuke]

nice...

[skyline34_]

1999 - 2002

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m312/skyline34_/nissan_skyline_gtr_r34_05.jpg


As much as I dislike the new GT-R, I really hope it will do well.

GT-R forever :D

[international]

1957-2002
Skyline RIP

1969-2002
GTR RIP

[skyline34_]

Did up a simple video compilation to introduce the new GT-R.

Although I'm not exactly a big fan of this new GT-R, it still bears the GT-R emblem and carrying with it the proud history and heritage that have made the GT-R so sought after worldwide. I really do hope that this new GT-R will be a massive success.

Alritey, enjoy the video and rate it/leave a comment over at youtube if you can. Cheers. :)

[Levin]

My only love lies in the R34.. But I, too respect this because of the rich heritage and history behind the GTR.

[PiNgPiNg]

At least it still has its mom's ass :o

2008 GT-R hopefully can bring back more life into Nissan sports/performance car.. But i would still prefer if they didn't make the car that slick :( .. whatever happen to the GT-R muscle look? the new GT-R feels like a mutated 350Z...

[skyline34_]

At least it still has its mom's ass :o

2008 GT-R hopefully can bring back more life into Nissan sports/performance car.. But i would still prefer if they didn't make the car that slick :( .. whatever happen to the GT-R muscle look? the new GT-R feels like a mutated 350Z...

my sentiments too.

but I guess Nissan is looking to take a different direction with the new GT-R. Something that's slightly more up market and not the typical Japanese sports car like the evos and rexes.

[hencpu]

still prefer R34 :(

[skyline34_]

still prefer R34 :(

white R34 you mean? :hat1:

[international]

white R34 you mean? :hat1:
Gun metal grey, with carbon bonnet...:D

[hencpu]

white R34 you mean? :hat1:
lol...:hat1:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7115/22hn2.jpg

[spivia]

a doctor friend i know told me todaythat
he place a deposit for the GTR already, car coming in march, arghhhhhhh , some ppl have all the luck and $$$

[skyline34_]

a doctor friend i know told me todaythat
he place a deposit for the GTR already, car coming in march, arghhhhhhh , some ppl have all the luck and $$$

with tan chong? or a PI?

[international]

with tan chong? or a PI?
cannot smuggle in?

[spivia]

PI, some kian leong or something

[skyline34_]

PI, some kian leong or something

wow, your friend must be quite the GT-R enthusiast. :D

[skyline34_]

cannot smuggle in?

smuggle? it will arrive here either via the official distro or a parallel importer. I don't quite get what you mean :D :rolleyes

[yeeth]

smuggle means put in your luggage when you come back from overseas lorh =D

[Levin]

The new GT-R has been reported by both the automotive press as well as sources within Nissan as being harder to modify than the previous Skyline GT-Rs. Nissan has also gone through lengths to safeguard the car against modification with sensors alerting the dealer of an performance modifications and nullifying the warranty. However, it has been reported that Nissan has given access to the car to select tuners, already Japanese tuning houses Mine's, MCR and Top Secret have been seen testing modified GT-Rs with the former two having conducted tests at the Tsukuba Circuit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R#Production

[ktk]

drive the damn car before making assumptions that its souless...

[skyline34_]

drive the damn car before making assumptions that its souless...

firstly, this car is most probably gonna cost 200k when it reaches our shores so there is no way I can afford one now.

next, I have no doubt that the new GT-R is gonna triumph over the previous generation in terms of performance. Not to mention it looks sleeker, classier and has a more up market/luxury image compared to its predecessors.

but like many other GT-R fans, it is clear to see that this new car has somewhat lost something. I'm sure if I ever get to drive the car, I will enjoy it and if i had driven an R34 GT-R before, I'm sure the new GT-R would provide a better experience. Sadly, I have driven none of them.

This situation is in a way similar to the Gallardo. When Audi decided to clip off the scissors door, I just felt that the new Gallardo had kinda lost its soul. I mean it's still a mighty fine car but somehow, it doesn't feel the same.

Maybe you're right. I should drive the new GT-R before saying its soul-less. But then again, so many GT-R fans worldwide are lamenting that the new car isn't exactly their cup of tea. Something must be wrong eh?

[international]

drive the damn car before making assumptions that its souless...
Its a damn bastard child of 350Z...of cause its a souless cunt...

It has a freaking V6 for Christ's sake, the whole inline 6 RB legend is DEAD!...

Ash to ash, dust to dust...GTR RIP...

[Don_cross]

But the way I see it, nissan needed to move the GT-R up market instead of getting assaulted by the Evo and STi. Instead of being just another turbo-ed AWD(with electronic voodoo) japanese family saloon, the new godzilla is going to be THE japanese benchmark for performance.

[bozo]

But the way I see it, nissan needed to move the GT-R up market instead of getting assaulted by the Evo and STi. Instead of being just another turbo-ed AWD(with electronic voodoo) japanese family saloon, the new godzilla is going to be THE japanese benchmark for performance.

It might go the way of the NSX though, because japanese sport cars are all about being cheap and super robust (r32, r34, celica st205, rx7 in a way, imprezas). A 300k Jap sport car might not digest too well in the market....

[skyline34_]

It might go the way of the NSX though, because japanese sport cars are all about being cheap and super robust (r32, r34, celica st205, rx7 in a way, imprezas). A 300k Jap sport car might not digest too well in the market....

I concur. Which is why I feel that Nissan should brand all the new GT-R under Infiniti, maybe except for Japan. A luxury Jap sports car is still very much an oxymoron to most people. Branding it under Infiniti would certainly help to improve this image. Toyota clearly saw this and branded their luxury sedans under Lexus. And look at how successful Lexus is today :D

[Don_cross]

atleast nissan took a step to get the GT-R bloodline out off the skyline line up. I wont want my 300k car having a 100k cousin. I mean skylines were cool but they never could move up market. The way I see it, nissan aint aiming to sell as many GT-R as the Z car either. All they need is better adverts IMO.

[international]

I still very disappointed with Nissan taking the GTR out of the Skyline blood line. Consider that the GTR legend all happened because of the Skyline range.

If Nissan wants to put the GTR in level with the NSX, this GTR will always exist with the shadow of the Skyline.

Where as NSX is solely NSX itself. It is quite true to say that the name GTR will always remind us of the Skyline, in fact, GTR is often associated with Skyline GTR...We dont see people calling NSX and think of S2000s...

[ktk]

Its a damn bastard child of 350Z...of cause its a souless cunt...

It has a freaking V6 for Christ's sake, the whole inline 6 RB legend is DEAD!...

Ash to ash, dust to dust...GTR RIP...

so your point is that the new M3 is also soulness as it has a V6?

someday, all our cars will be hybrids and someday later , electric motors...

you cant stop the future...

i agree that you are nostalgic for the old cars but its time to move on...

one have to walk out of the circle...:)

[ktk]

firstly, this car is most probably gonna cost 200k when it reaches our shores so there is no way I can afford one now.

next, I have no doubt that the new GT-R is gonna triumph over the previous generation in terms of performance. Not to mention it looks sleeker, classier and has a more up market/luxury image compared to its predecessors.

but like many other GT-R fans, it is clear to see that this new car has somewhat lost something. I'm sure if I ever get to drive the car, I will enjoy it and if i had driven an R34 GT-R before, I'm sure the new GT-R would provide a better experience. Sadly, I have driven none of them.

This situation is in a way similar to the Gallardo. When Audi decided to clip off the scissors door, I just felt that the new Gallardo had kinda lost its soul. I mean it's still a mighty fine car but somehow, it doesn't feel the same.

Maybe you're right. I should drive the new GT-R before saying its soul-less. But then again, so many GT-R fans worldwide are lamenting that the new car isn't exactly their cup of tea. Something must be wrong eh?

you dont have to own the car to drive it...

and power seduces... i bet 2c that with all the extra power on the new GT-R,for the same price, you wont want to drive the old one anymore...

keeping for keepsake is another matter...:angel2:

[Service]

you dont have to own the car to drive it...

and power seduces... i bet 2c that with all the extra power on the new GT-R,for the same price, you wont want to drive the old one anymore...

keeping for keepsake is another matter...:angel2:
ya, only diff between the new and old one is that the old one is roughly half the price...

[international]

so your point is that the new M3 is also soulness as it has a V6?

someday, all our cars will be hybrids and someday later , electric motors...

you cant stop the future...

i agree that you are nostalgic for the old cars but its time to move on...

one have to walk out of the circle...:)
The new M3 actually has a V8 which makes matters even worse.

If you have read my posts in regards to the new M3 on VRForums, you will find me dishing out very harsh comments on the usage of a V8 over the inline6, so I dont think I am favoring BMW in anyways.

[HondaFreak]

Gonna miss the RB26 skylines with limitless tuning potential. I mean wads with the obsession of new = better. Even the good old 4G63 of the Evos is getting replaced with minimal improvements. If it ain't broke don't bloody fix it. :evil2:

[ktk]

The new M3 actually has a V8 which makes matters even worse.

If you have read my posts in regards to the new M3 on VRForums, you will find me dishing out very harsh comments on the usage of a V8 over the inline6, so I dont think I am favoring BMW in anyways.

ok...

but IMHO nowadays, cars have to pass LEV standards which really makes em run over to the V6/8/10 crowd with fancy computer controls ...

the inline6 is dead, long love the inline6...

oh wait theres still the porches...:angel2:

[international]

Gonna miss the RB26 skylines with limitless tuning potential. I mean wads with the obsession of new = better. Even the good old 4G63 of the Evos is getting replaced with minimal improvements. If it ain't broke don't bloody fix it. :evil2:
Putting 4G63 with Mivec...isnt bad actually...

[international]

ok...

but IMHO nowadays, cars have to pass LEV standards which really makes em run over to the V6/8/10 crowd with fancy computer controls ...

the inline6 is dead, long love the inline6...

oh wait theres still the porches...:angel2:
You obviously know jack shit...

Porsche dont actually use Inline 6 configuration at all...Porsche uses Boxer 6...for most of the sports cars in their range with the exception of the V10 on the Carrera GT which is more of a supercar and a VW developed V6 and V8 on their Cayenne range.

Inline 6 is actually the most commonly used engine configuration in BMW...

BMW 320i
BMW 323i
BMW 325i
BMW 328i
BMW 330i
BMW 335i

BMW 520i
BMW 530i

BMW 728i

from the top of my head...

In fact the old M3 engine known as S54 is still currently used by the M model Z4s...

BMW 335i actually uses a 3.0L Inline 6 matched with a pair of turbos thus, given the power rating of a 335i.

Anything that ranges from 2000cc to 3200cc are still covered by the inline 6 configuration....

Your post just made a total fool of yourself..."long live the inline6...my arse"

[ktk]

You obviously know jack shit...

Porsche dont actually use Inline 6 configuration at all...Porsche uses Boxer 6...for most of the sports cars in their range with the exception of the V10 on the Carrera GT which is more of a supercar and a VW developed V6 and V8 on their Cayenne range.

Inline 6 is actually the most commonly used engine configuration in BMW...

BMW 320i
BMW 323i
BMW 325i
BMW 328i
BMW 330i
BMW 335i

BMW 520i
BMW 530i

BMW 728i

from the top of my head...

In fact the old M3 engine known as S54 is still currently used by the M model Z4s...

BMW 335i actually uses a 3.0L Inline 6 matched with a pair of turbos thus, given the power rating of a 335i.

Anything that ranges from 2000cc to 3200cc are still covered by the inline 6 configuration....

Your post just made a total fool of yourself..."long live the inline6...my arse"


im talking bout performance japanese inline 6's...

supra, gt-r and the such... they ceast to exist anymore in japan car maker's catalogues... V6 is the new trend unfortunately...

sorry bout the prche screwup, im not a eurofag.

[international]

im talking bout performance japanese inline 6's...

supra, gt-r and the such... they ceast to exist anymore in japan car maker's catalogues... V6 is the new trend unfortunately...

sorry bout the prche screwup, im not a eurofag.
Stop trying to twist your original words, there was no mention of any Japanese engines at all, in fact, you emancipated your arguments by using Porsche as an example which really went down in an very incorrect result, pretty much slapping yourself in the face...

There was only two series of "Japanese" engines that actually used Inline 6 of which are the Nissan RB family of engines and the Toyota JZ series. Which concludes that the Japanese never really took Inline 6 engines that seriously. Keep in mind that the RB and JZ were only developed and used in the very early 80s to the early 00s, whilst BMW has been development and usage of their Inline 6 have been going since the 1950s and still continued in most of their cars...

Stop trying to bring up people as "eurofags" I dont believe that is a very nice way to talk about people who own or understand European cars purely on the basis that European cars a priced above Japanese cars.

Dont be sorry about the Porsche screw up. If you are this stupid, at least use Wikipedia first...

Your submissiveness tone and weak rebuttal makes yourself totally a tool...+ a fool...

[ktk]

Stop trying to twist your original words, there was no mention of any Japanese engines at all, in fact, you emancipated your arguments by using Porsche as an example which really went down in an very incorrect result, pretty much slapping yourself in the face...

There was only two series of "Japanese" engines that actually used Inline 6 of which are the Nissan RB family of engines and the Toyota JZ series. Which concludes that the Japanese never really took Inline 6 engines that seriously. Keep in mind that the RB and JZ were only developed and used in the very early 80s to the early 00s, whilst BMW has been development and usage of their Inline 6 have been going since the 1950s and still continued in most of their cars...

Stop trying to bring up people as "eurofags" I dont believe that is a very nice way to talk about people who own or understand European cars purely on the basis that European cars a priced above Japanese cars.

Dont be sorry about the Porsche screw up. If you are this stupid, at least use Wikipedia first...

Your submissiveness tone and weak rebuttal makes yourself totally a tool...+ a fool...

im just trying to be nice and courteous... well...

some people can just drive m3's and BMWs and still be nasty and brainless i guess...:sarcastic

i dont mind losing an arguement on the internet , cuz if you win, you are still retarded.

[bozo]

Stop trying to bring up people as "eurofags" I dont believe that is a very nice way to talk about people who own or understand European cars purely on the basis that European cars a priced above Japanese cars.

Unless of course you drive an Alfa Romeo, or a Peugeot. =D

[international]

Unless of course you drive an Alfa Romeo, or a Peugeot. =D
Na come on bro, dont get cheeky...

[evanshuang]

the car has arrived in singapore... :D

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7112/22122007019ex5.jpg
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credit: devvic @ NTU Motoring Club

[hencpu]

the car has arrived in singapore... :D



credit: devvic @ NTU Motoring Club


wooo! the black one is much nicer...:hat1:

[international]

wooo! the black one is much nicer...:hat1:
Reminds me of a black 350Z...

[martinchua]

saw the pic too. uber sweeet

[skyline34_]

hmm.. so the car has reached our shores..

[tUx]

o m f g !

:drool:

[DarkEgle]

i saw d car juz nw on the street at akihabara in japan. veri nice.