View Full Version : Ocean's Twelve postmortem (spoilers)
quarian
February 28th, 2005, 09:55 PM
Hey so who has watched Ocean's Twelve coz I have to say I didn't really get the scam in the end. Like how did the nerdy Matt Damon's character's mom get into it (the twist was good and funny but made no sense)? And the principled Catherine Zeta Jones character just gave up her principles and her life long passion and dedication to her job upon seeing her dad. I mean there wasn't enough character development there to even explain the history with her dad and she didn't even show one iota of conflict..
Loved the whole Julia Roberts gag though and Bruce Willis turning up like that "Jules!!" :laugh3: although did his character fussing over Julia remind anyone of his wishy washy act in The Whole Ten Yards?
Brad Pitt was dishy but I like best that he gave his character all these funny expressions whenever he realised something like when the car blew up as he was walking towards it and when he realised his handphone was stolen.
Besides the mom to the rescue thing, the other thing I didn't get at all was how Ocean was in cahoots with Lemark (sp?) all the way and how on earth the egg happened to be in a backpack on the way out. But I think I did see the egg bag got switched during the football-supporters' scuffle on the bus.
So anyone care to elaborate or share any views on that show? In my opinion, story was really lacking but a fun cast to watch and fun to see them get back together if you watched the previous one and like to see stars. :devil:
Also, this post marks the first movie post in the newly named forum of Food, Movies and Music or FMM :hat2:
PiNgPiNg
February 28th, 2005, 10:03 PM
wow congrats to this new section.. watch the movie again( after "the terminal") at palmer hse to fill in ur question marks:D
MeDiC
February 28th, 2005, 10:11 PM
heh...she was pestering some of the guy in the office that time to get more mod powers in more forums.,...tsk tsk...
I watched Ocean 11 but not 12 yet....who has the disc??=)
simplyadvanced
February 28th, 2005, 10:36 PM
who has arh? can lend? :P
quarian
February 28th, 2005, 11:14 PM
medic don't talk nonsense about the mod :evil: :cool1: You always try to OT topics with personal comments about the posters.:shoot:
Eh seriously, someone who has watched it must explain the whole scheme with the Lemark guy, boggles the mind how he popped out of nowhere. I was like huh :confused: :confused:
Don't think Ocean 12 dvd is out yet, but soon? Maybe rent from EZ-video or dvd shop when it's out for another marathon! Although from my brief sketchy review, you can tell, I don't think it's worth watching twice! Bourne Supremacy is better.
MeDiC
March 1st, 2005, 12:03 AM
medic don't talk nonsense about the mod :evil: :cool1: You always try to OT topics with personal comments about the posters.:shoot:
Eh seriously, someone who has watched it must explain the whole scheme with the Lemark guy, boggles the mind how he popped out of nowhere. I was like huh :confused: :confused:
Don't think Ocean 12 dvd is out yet, but soon? Maybe rent from EZ-video or dvd shop when it's out for another marathon! Although from my brief sketchy review, you can tell, I don't think it's worth watching twice! Bourne Supremacy is better.
correct what...you always fight to get more mod powers in different sections wat.. :animal7:
maybe we can have a Oceans' night when the OCean 12 DVD or VCD is out??
PiNgPiNg
March 1st, 2005, 12:33 AM
correct what...you always fight to get more mod powers in different sections wat.. :animal7:
maybe we can have a Oceans' night when the OCean 12 DVD or VCD is out??
yes but b4 tt mus watch the terminal
spodulator
March 2nd, 2005, 08:49 AM
Hey all, I a newbie! Wanted to share my views on Ocean's 12! First off, didn't think it was anywhere near as good as Ocean's 11, but then again, very few sequels are.
The reason why Matt Damon's character Linus's Mom got involved was because the whole stint had been set up from the word go, remember? The 3D holographic egg, the fact that they all ended up in prison had been set up because they already had the egg. It had been stolen in transit - before it even got to the museum. So Linus's Mom had been involved on it too, because the rest of the events were all planned. So she had obviously been told that she would have to get them out of jail, cos they knew they would be there in the first place.
But the audience doesn't realise that till the end. :curious:
Pretty much all of the movie was pointless, because they already had the egg. The rest was all a show. It's like they played a trick on us. :sad3:
Well, those are my two cents!
I'm liking this forum :laugh6:
quarian
March 2nd, 2005, 09:00 PM
Hey hey lil buddy spod :), welcome!! and good of you to join us.
Woah, if the 12 already had the egg, why go to all that trouble to get caught stealing a fake one and get themselve noticed by authorities. And how was did the egg end up in a backpack at first. And how did lemark get involved. And you mean linus' plan w julia roberts was also conceived of by the gang as a whole and not his own afterthought coz that's just weird.
Have rehurt my hand again folks so cannot type too much. :sad3:
PiNgPiNg
March 2nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
wah quarian, that hand of yours better be more careful... anyway get well soon
spodulator
March 2nd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Ok, see the whole thing that we saw first - them getting the holographic egg, getting arrested, getting "Julia Roberts" involved was all done as a show to the 'Night Fox' guy. The whole thing was all a show, because they had the egg, but they put on a show for the Night Fox so they would seem like they hadn't got it.
I'm not too sure why they did this!
Also I don't know whether "Julia Roberts" plan was an afterthought or concieved by the whole gang, I'm thinking the latter, because George Clooney didn't seem that suprised to see her.
The egg was switched with a fake when it was in transit and put into a rucksack and passed onto Linus etc.
Also can't rem who Lemark was?
They knew they would get caught by the authorities, so they had already organised for Linus's mom to get them out of the jail. It was all planned.
There's a lot of time jumps in the movie, it's hard to follow! :shoot11:
Poor hand! Hope you ok, rest it lots!!
quarian
March 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM
Lemark was the master thief, also Nightfox's mentor and catherine Z's father! It was strange that he was in cahoots with the 12 unless he had something against his protege.
I rem the guys in prison betting how far linus would go before being caught at the museum so maybe they did know.
I think the show requires several leaps of logic coz they concentrated only on the cool factor to draw audience and cha-ching *jackpot action*
And I just realised, anyone else think linus looks like the linus from charlie brown?
tenankers
March 9th, 2005, 04:23 PM
just watched . think the movie sux man.
waste my time watching.
night fox is the guy who breakdance into the museum to still the fake egg ah?
the whole story line is lame.
international
March 9th, 2005, 05:27 PM
thats was one of the worst movies i have ever seen
simplyadvanced
March 9th, 2005, 07:32 PM
lousy plot nice acting.
no. really lousy plot.
simplyadvanced
March 9th, 2005, 07:33 PM
thats was one of the worst movies i have ever seen
have u watched catwoman? :alien3:
tenankers
March 9th, 2005, 11:27 PM
i like butterfly effect. Makes you think a lot of "What if i have done this back then" qns
international
March 10th, 2005, 05:03 AM
lousy plot nice acting.
no. really lousy plot.
the whole story is just shocking!!
but the acters and actress are the highest people I have ever seen!
darKHell
March 14th, 2005, 12:43 AM
yea this 2nd part sucks alot... oc11 was much better... when i am watching it... i was waiting for something big to happen... i cant the climax at all... unlike oc11 where u know when the climax will be... end up oc12 is portrayed in a different way... towards the ending, when they started to tell how they achieve this and that i find it damm anti climax.... linus mother to the resuce, and they changed the egg on the way out... and how the (dunno wat name) theif that they made a deal with to steal the thing...... hai... bad bad bad... no suspense and no climax.... only a bunch of highly paid actor and actress... but there are still funny parts thou...
qurian i remember i told u oc11 was better right... hehe
shin
March 14th, 2005, 08:08 AM
correct what...you always fight to get more mod powers in different sections wat.. :animal7:
maybe we can have a Oceans' night when the OCean 12 DVD or VCD is out??
Oceans 12 dvd is of coz out already, if not why would I have the dvdrip :tongue:
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