[fengshenwee]

For something to run for 24/7 to get decent sound is not normal. I dun think u are talking about run in timing but just warming up right?

[wwenze]

Originally Posted by fengshenwee

For something to run for 24/7 to get decent sound is not normal. I dun think u are talking about run in timing but just warming up right?

Some electronics may require days to warm up.

So instead of on-off every day need to on all the time to get better sound.

But running a 200W class-AB amp 24/7 is kinda gay.

[Seanyzf]

Originally Posted by wwenze

But running a 200W class-AB amp 24/7 is kinda gay.

Running class A amp 24/7 is even more gay. lol

[Seanyzf]

Originally Posted by fengshenwee

For something to run for 24/7 to get decent sound is not normal. I dun think u are talking about run in timing but just warming up right?

I believe if you read your Bel Canto instruction manual, you will find a line which state that this device will perform at it best after being switch on for a few days.

[Questor]

Yes, I was talking about warming up. Looks like I need to elaborate. FYI the Plinius 9200 is pretty controversial. There was a review in 2004 by Martin Colloms which stated the amp was pretty mediocre. Until today this is a topic that people still discuss and 1 of the theories was that he only turned it on 3 days before the review, despite the unit being run-in by the company (the other theories have been thrown out the window). Many advocates state that they need to warm it up for more than a week before it sounds good - and I have heard this directly from some owners.

The thing about Class A/B is the amount of bias, and the plinius 9200 has quite a bit of bias in the Class A range which means it uses more current than normal. So leaving it on 24/7 means a bigger electricity bill.. I'm not sure how much it will add to your bill, but if its $100 more a month, to me that's quite an expense compared to the cost of the amplifier. I rather buy a more expensive item than waste more electricity. About plinius itself, I think the owner has left and thus the latest haito sounds quite different.

Seanyzf, if I can suggest.. IMO the dynaudios will do better with more watts and an amp that can satisfy lower ohm loads. But strangely I often run into dynaudio owners who don't feed it enough watts... It's just my opinion that the plinius combo is not that special, but if you are happy with it (since you can easily hear the combo in the showroom), go ahead. the 9200 always seems to pop up in used ads - just saw one sold last month. Buying used at least means less loss if you want to sell it.

[DragonFire]

Originally Posted by Seanyzf

Running class A amp 24/7 is even more gay. lol

Running a pair of monoblock class A amps 24/7 takes the cake.

DF

[Seanyzf]

Originally Posted by Questor

Seanyzf, if I can suggest.. IMO the dynaudios will do better with more watts and an amp that can satisfy lower ohm loads. But strangely I often run into dynaudio owners who don't feed it enough watts... It's just my opinion that the plinius combo is not that special, but if you are happy with it (since you can easily hear the combo in the showroom), go ahead. the 9200 always seems to pop up in used ads - just saw one sold last month. Buying used at least means less loss if you want to sell it.

Hmmm.. what kind of combo do you find it sound better and how much is relli enough in contour range? I'm limited to only BC S300i, roksan, plinius and a 30watter class a amp(forgot the name). I would say this class a amp sounds warm and sweet as compare to other class A/B or D. Would love to try make like krell, ML and such but the price also rocketing up.

[fengshenwee]

Originally Posted by Seanyzf

Hmmm.. what kind of combo do you find it sound better and how much is relli enough in contour range? I'm limited to only BC S300i, roksan, plinius and a 30watter class a amp(forgot the name). I would say this class a amp sounds warm and sweet as compare to other class A/B or D. Would love to try make like krell, ML and such but the price also rocketing up.

haha.. I think questor is still looking for his ideal Integrated amp. If I am not wrong, he will be at dynaudio I think for audition this coming Sat. Meaning later.... He will be testing all the dream amps...

[Questor]

Originally Posted by Seanyzf

Hmmm.. what kind of combo do you find it sound better and how much is relli enough in contour range? I'm limited to only BC S300i, roksan, plinius and a 30watter class a amp(forgot the name). I would say this class a amp sounds warm and sweet as compare to other class A/B or D. Would love to try make like krell, ML and such but the price also rocketing up.

i wrote a reply earlier and it got wiped when forum was upgrading. i do not have extensive experience with dynaudio unfortunately, but i liked how it sounds with krell. i've heard it with BC S300, plinius and roksan and do not find it satisfying somehow - a little restrained imo. IMO the dynaudios need raw power to bring it to life (e.g. krell, mark levinson, pass labs comes to mind), but maybe u can experiment around. heard some people had decent results with arcam also. i'm not so sure about class d amps as class d typically lacks muscle even though they have high watts - but this is really easy to test since most class d amps i know of are available for home trials and are light.

just for fun, i will be trying out the rotel 500w integrated ice powered amp later. from my very limited listening earlier, it sounds good esp for the money and is more tonally accurate than bc and is more dynamic (which may suit the dynaudios). just mentioning this because u mention bc s300.. and this is cheaper (on sale), with the same ice modules used by bc, but yet u get a better module than the s300 (the one they use in the ref 1000). suggest u give this a try as well as it has higher watts and that may help.

unfortunately i feel this is one speaker brand (through feedback also) that is pretty picky on the amplifier. if you don't get the right one, i feel you're not letting the true performance of the speaker come out.. strangely though, i tend to bump into people who skimp on the power amp when buying dynaudio, but having said that, some are also happy with how it sounds, so who am i to comment?

Originally Posted by fengshenwee

haha.. I think questor is still looking for his ideal Integrated amp. If I am not wrong, he will be at dynaudio I think for audition this coming Sat. Meaning later.... He will be testing all the dream amps...

actually was going dynaudio just to pass someone a pre-amp to try with the P10. will be doing my rounds at other shops. i have no real interest in the plinius based on what i heard so far, but may trial it with my speakers just to make sure.

this search is taking me a really long time with lots of trial and error. i really urge u guys to trial as reviews are really not trustworthy imo, and alot of people just parrot them. have an ayre infront of me right now, borrowed just yesterday, but i'll be returning later today as i'm done with it.. and the search continues. unfortunately it seem that my budget for amplifiers have to keep increasing to get a real jump in performance.

gf asks me to consider leaving my setup as it is and saving all the money so we can buy the focal utopia scala in the future.. which now costs $38k. if you've not heard this speaker, i urge you to try it out. best part is that it doesn't need expensive electronics to sing. have not been this impressed in years (regardless of cost).

[DragonFire]

Originally Posted by fengshenwee

haha.. I think questor is still looking for his ideal Integrated amp. If I am not wrong, he will be at dynaudio I think for audition this coming Sat. Meaning later.... He will be testing all the dream amps...

Try out the Krell F.B.I.

DF

[Seanyzf]

I think FBI will cost more than 10k judging from the spec. A 3000 VA custom torroidal transformer is something we not always came across.

[Questor]

Unfortunately I'm not quite sold on Krell.. in terms of integrated, I was looking at the Karan actually. Much cheaper. Sean, the FBI is closer to $20k than 10.

[Seanyzf]

Originally Posted by Questor

Unfortunately I'm not quite sold on Krell.. in terms of integrated, I was looking at the Karan actually. Much cheaper. Sean, the FBI is closer to $20k than 10.

haha that bring me back to reality.

[Questor]

The Krell FBI is $25-28k i think.. saw it today but my memory fails me. The s300i is $4k.. cheaper than the plinius 9200. anyway, today i also happen to hear the p10 (power amp only) and it does sound slightly better than the 9200. but the krell s300i gets quite gd marks from me in comparison..

[Seanyzf]

hmm... how does s300i fair against the BC s300i since both give 300w and I believe Krell has higher current output rite? p10 need another pre amp le so add up to the cost liao..