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Lee Hsien Loong : "Singapore Will Consider Scrapping ISA If KL Does So” bigsale Sep 16th, 11, 12:57 PM #1
Lee Hsien Loong: Singapore “will consider scrapping ISA if KL does so”





from The Straits Times dated 3 February 1991:

Singapore will seriously consider abolishing the Internal Security Act if Malaysia were to do so, said Deputy Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.

Brigadier-General (Res) Lee made this response to seven Malaysian journalist s in his office recently when asked why the ISA was still needed in Singapore even though the Communist Party of Malaya no longer posed a threat.

He said that if Malaysia did not abolish the same Act, which provides for indefinite detention without trial, it must have its reasons.

In the interview published in the Nanyang Siang Pau, a Malaysian daily and Lianhe Zaobao yesterday, BG Lee said: “Communism may be dead, but it is not the only threat. We must still deal with other groups, like religious extremists – members of a Malay group were arrested under the Act for making preparations to commemorate the May 13th incident.”

The May 13 riots in Malaysia in 1969 started soon after Alliance won a narrow victory in the general elections. A series of bloody clashes broke out between the Chinese and Malay communities, leading to a state of emergency.

He added: “There were also the dissidents and church members involved in a conspiracy to subvert Singapore’s political and social order three years ago; another incident involved Francis Seow being exploited by the US. Had there been no ISA, these cases could never have been exposed. So, it is still better for us to retain the Act.”

In an earlier meeting with the journalists, Law and Home Affairs Minister S. Jayakumar stressed the need to deal with racial and religious extremism, even though there was no threat from communism.

On the detention order on former Barisan Socialis MP Chia Thye Poh, he said that although Mr Chia is restricted to Sentosa, he is allowed to visit mainland Singapore during the day, but must return to the island in the evening.

Asked by Nanyang Siang Pau about the possibility of a complete withdrawal of the detention order, Prof Jayakumar said he did not rule this out. But, he said, even though Mr Chia has been conducting himself well on the island, he is still not willing to disavow communism.

Source: Lee Hsien Loong: Singapore “will consider scrapping ISA if KL does so” | The Online Citizen


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goenitz33 Sep 16th, 11, 01:46 PM #2
Now they will say, what applies in 1991 will be different now.
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kidd Sep 16th, 11, 02:05 PM #4
Hohoho, what they said is coming back to bite them in the ass.
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etegration Sep 16th, 11, 02:09 PM #5
use brain lah, 1991 news taken out of context. Different times, say differnet things for sure ma. 2011 pay you 1991 salary rate can? of course cannot lah!
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DragonFire Sep 16th, 11, 02:09 PM #6
1991. Wake up. That was before 9/11.

Taking things out of context. ISA is a needed instrument.

It's things like this that reinforce how shallow some people are when dealing with serious matters.

They as such should not and will not be taken seriously.

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hangyong Sep 16th, 11, 02:39 PM #7
dun take things so hard lah..... just leave it and see how the government react first them kpkb lah
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Triple3 Sep 16th, 11, 02:41 PM #8
ISA should still be retained, but needs to be revised. I don't wanna see headlines like the UK train bombing happening here.
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wenasong Sep 16th, 11, 02:41 PM #9
Different time, different context. That was 20 years ago.
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ayu1978 Sep 16th, 11, 07:42 PM #10
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Originally Posted by DragonFire View Post
1991. Wake up. That was before 9/11.

Taking things out of context. ISA is a needed instrument.

It's things like this that reinforce how shallow some people are when dealing with serious matters.

They as such should not and will not be taken seriously.

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As ISA allows for indefinite detention and no chance for a legal hearing, what if someone innocent is detained under this act? It has already happened in Gitmo where some people who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time got sent inside.

I think you should know the history of the ISA act in Singapore and its application. If not, please look it up then. If the ISA act was used only on exclusively on terrorists, criminals and "subversive elements" (this term is open to very wide interpretation and can basically mean anyone the government doesn't like), i don't think there would be any much controversy and debate surrounding this act which was passed more than 50 years ago.

In a nutshell, IMO,:

Yes: to locking up terrorists and extremists and threats to national security. (with legal oversight)

No: to locking up political opponents on trumped up charges (if there is any) which they have no legal chance to defend against.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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helloicanseeu Sep 17th, 11, 12:03 AM #13
isa wont be scrapped for sometime to go,
its not just isa alone, theres the whole political scene/justice system, that needs a look at.
even lawyers will tell u, that the law is there only to protect those who knows the law,
anyway the only effective means against terrorism is the isa, no doubt about that,
without isa, u cannot stamp out terrorism quickly and effectively, but there's a cost for implementing isa, namely individuals who somehow happened to be on the wrong side of it.
but there's no reason to follow what KL is doing, we're different countries, afterall
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buaya Sep 17th, 11, 01:48 AM #14
NO WAY! Like it or not, I still think that ISA must remain. I still believe in locking a person up indefinitely especially if that person has ill intent. e.g. terrorist, or people who intend to cause trouble in a mass scale.

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MacWin Sep 17th, 11, 08:06 AM #15
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Originally Posted by ayu1978 View Post
As ISA allows for indefinite detention and no chance for a legal hearing, what if someone innocent is detained under this act? It has already happened in Gitmo where some people who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time got sent inside.

I think you should know the history of the ISA act in Singapore and its application. If not, please look it up then. If the ISA act was used only on exclusively on terrorists, criminals and "subversive elements" (this term is open to very wide interpretation and can basically mean anyone the government doesn't like), i don't think there would be any much controversy and debate surrounding this act which was passed more than 50 years ago.

In a nutshell, IMO,:

Yes: to locking up terrorists and extremists and threats to national security. (with legal oversight)

No: to locking up political opponents on trumped up charges (if there is any) which they have no legal chance to defend against.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
you're still in the 90s mindset.
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