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Your Citizenship is Worth $4,511 More Than a PR Per Year sigmazzz Oct 31st, 09, 06:36 PM #1 (permalink)
http://www.salary.sg/2009/your-citiz...a-pr-per-year/

Your Citizenship is Worth $4,511 More Than a PR Per Year
October 31st, 2009

According to our calculations, your citizenship is worth $4,511 more than permanent residents per year. For that, you have to serve NS if you are male, and watch some of your PR friends sell their HDBs for a good profit and then return to their (sometimes) cheaper home countries to enjoy retirement.

As a Singapore citizen, here’s what you enjoy (reference: ST, 24 Oct 2009):
  • Child birth. If you stay in a Class B2+ ward, you pay $475. For PR, it’s $506, which is $31 more. The average Singapore woman has about 1 child and will thus get the $10,000 baby bonus (we ignore the fact that she will have to split the bonus with her husband). Spread over 20 years of providing for the child, the baby bonus amounts to $500 per year. Total child birth benefit: $31 + $500 = $531/yr.
  • Childcare subsidy. Singaporean working mum gets a $300/mth subsidy while PRs get nothing. Total childcare benefit: $3,600/yr.
  • School fees. PRs pay $2,884 more than Singaporeans per child for the 16 years of education all the way to university. This is $180/yr.
  • Marriage fees. Insignificant.
  • Housing. Though PRs are not eligible to buy new flats, many Singaporeans also do not buy new flats. Since both citizens and PRs are eligible to buy resale flats, for ease of comparison, we will treat housing benefit as insignificant.
  • Health subsidies. Citizens get about 10% more subsidy than PRs. Assuming that an average citizen spends $20k over 10 years, this 10% difference amounts to $200/yr.
Grand total: $4,511 per year. Note that if you’re single, it would be just $200 per year.

No wonder the ST reporter Zakir Hussain said “the distinctions between citizens and PRs could not have been clearer.”

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ZhiQiang Oct 31st, 09, 06:37 PM #2 (permalink)
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lennardseah Oct 31st, 09, 06:57 PM #3 (permalink)
NS 2 years = $600 (for average SK warrior)

Average poly grad prob can earn $1.6k/mth

thats a -$24k shortfall right there
 
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xkyox Oct 31st, 09, 07:00 PM #4 (permalink)
I don't care about this...I WANT MORE PAY THATS ALL!!
 
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Philip Oct 31st, 09, 07:14 PM #5 (permalink)
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justawonderkid Oct 31st, 09, 07:40 PM #6 (permalink)
Can sell citizenship?
 
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Can sell citizenship?
Sell citizenship + interest every year
 
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ktk Oct 31st, 09, 10:35 PM #9 (permalink)
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NS 2 years = $600 (for average SK warrior)

Average poly grad prob can earn $1.6k/mth

thats a -$24k shortfall right there
ouch.
 
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ORiN Nov 1st, 09, 01:21 AM #11 (permalink)
I will be more lenient. $1.5k/mth for a fresh diploma graduate.

$1.5k x 26 (13th month bonus included) = $39k

Based on my NS 'allowance':
BMT: $350 x 3 = $1,050
SISPEC BSLC: $450 x 3 = $1,350
SISPEC ASLC: $520 x 3 = $1,560
Combat Spec: $750 x = $11,250
Total: $15,210

Based on $4,511 as worth of citizenship,

$39,000 - ($15,210 + $4,511) = $19,279

That means I lost out on $19k! As for those families who lost their sons during their NS, I think the government owe them indefinitely.
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projectile Nov 1st, 09, 01:31 AM #12 (permalink)
So our lifes as Singaporean comes in a form of money...

Wat a epic Govt this is...

got 30 day money back Guarantee or not?
 
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So our lifes as Singaporean comes in a form of money...

Wat a epic Govt this is...

got 30 day money back Guarantee or not?
Guarantee? Only got guaranteed education up to Primary 4. Otherwise, 1 day money back also don't have. LOL!
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GegeV2 Nov 1st, 09, 04:09 AM #14 (permalink)
So the only clear distinction that separates us is in the form of money?

Reading the comments given in the link TS posted, I can't help feeling a tinge of pity
 
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hencpu Nov 1st, 09, 03:19 PM #15 (permalink)
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[*]Housing. Though PRs are not eligible to buy new flats, many Singaporeans also do not buy new flats. Since both citizens and PRs are eligible to buy resale flats, for ease of comparison, we will treat housing benefit as insignificant.
the guy didn't mention the $30K ($40K if near parents) housing grant citizen gets if buying resale flat (max income $8K/mth)...plus, an additional housing grant (AHG) up to $40K is given to lower income family (below $5K/mth) ...how is tat insignificant?

i dunno about u, but saving up $30-70K is not easy...especially when u just started working & having to save up for wedding as well

he failed to mention tat those PRs who buy resale flats are poor PRs, who used to eat bread & water, pay rents for years, sent money back to family & saved up for wedding while their local friends drive shiny new cars & complaining about how miserable their life as citizen is.

for ease of comparison? i'm sure there are other differences as well...the writer is either misinformed or bias
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