[opt1m4l]

i would go for NOD32..

[oldjoe]

Originally Posted by Outcast

No anti-spyware or anti-virus software on my computers... Still never kena those shit.

wa ... so naked ah! better b careful hor.
yesterday i rcv 2 email both w Win32.Netsky.c
Total got 4 liao over just a week!

If i dun put, die man!

[opt1m4l]

Originally Posted by oldjoe

wa ... so naked ah! better b careful hor.
yesterday i rcv 2 email both w Win32.Netsky.c
Total got 4 liao over just a week!

If i dun put, die man!

[xrM]

Originally Posted by oldjoe

wa ... so naked ah! better b careful hor.
yesterday i rcv 2 email both w Win32.Netsky.c
Total got 4 liao over just a week!

If i dun put, die man!

Depends, if he is super careful, without antivirus should be ok. Btw, web based email is safer.

[Outcast]

Originally Posted by John_Chee

Yours dail up connection ar? Broadband u connect a while no antivirus u can see all the virus coming in.

I will be buying AV software from SLS tomorrow. Still looking around to see which is good. Might go for NOD32 lor since its not resource demanding and everyone say its good.

Otherwise, then i would go for trend micro pc cillin. Used it last time and its ok lah as long as u r running the latest service pack.

Broadband connection. And you must have mistaken expliots as virus attacks. They are totally different...

PCs never format for a year. I only format when I need to get some free space not because of virus attack.

[oldjoe]

Originally Posted by xrM

Depends, if he is super careful, without antivirus should be ok. Btw, web based email is safer.

yep, web based should be safer.
prob is, if got > 5 email acct , pop is the lazy way, just 1 click

[xrM]

Originally Posted by Outcast

Broadband connection. And you must have mistaken expliots as virus attacks. They are totally different...

PCs never format for a year. I only format when I need to get some free space not because of virus attack.

Wow, your windows never get messed up one?

[a1v1n_]

i guess for clamwin, the only negative point is.. this..?

Please note that ClamWin Free Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware.

[cflee]

Originally Posted by Outcast

No anti-spyware or anti-virus software on my computers... Still never kena those shit.

haha mine more powderful..
no firewall installed (used to use ZA a long long time ago), windows firewall off, i dmz my lappy on my router, no av scanner (used to use avast), no antispyware (used to use spybot), haven't run windoze update for about half a year.. still alive =)

[Outcast]

Originally Posted by xrM

Wow, your windows never get messed up one?

Nope. Except sometime hangs lah. Windows what (Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition w/ SP1 to be specific), cannot have high expectations.

Originally Posted by cflee

haha mine more powderful..
no firewall installed (used to use ZA a long long time ago), windows firewall off, i dmz my lappy on my router, no av scanner (used to use avast), no antispyware (used to use spybot), haven't run windoze update for about half a year.. still alive =)

Hehe about the same leh except I do Windows update. You win!

[opt1m4l]

cflee dun care abt windows one

[opt1m4l]

up up for those in need

[orca]

What about norton ghost?
The one thing that can restore your system if it truly is totally trashed.
Essential utility, the last line of defence if all anti-virus and firewalls fail, and you pull the plug too late. Also just for those who like to tweak the registry or whatknot who may end up with windows refusing to boot.

Btw... general consensus among everyone I met who's reasonably well-versed in networking/computer security - zonealarm is one of the most, if not the most, problematic firewalls. Seen it cock up in every possible scenario and computer, including several times on my own comp until I decided to not install it on my next reformat. It has done before, among other things, screwed up windows or locked many people/systems offline, including my school library.

I'd like to add that I personally use kerio.

Also, you left ISS blackice firewall out of the list, which is truly one of the best, most advanced ones I've seen. It does everything from basic packet and port filtering to dll tracking and what I call "exotic vulnerability observation" - looking after things you'd never ever think of.
One example, is that it also logged down vr-zone as having the possibility of exploiting a loophole rooted in web icons because it (the icon or the machine with the icon, I wouldn't know) has abit of code dealing with said icon that doesn't conform to the standard parameters.
The brilliant thing is that it doesn't flash this as a warning in your face because alot of the time it simply is coding error. But then again, many, many exploits are found through coding accidents, and many seemingly benign errors may be attacks in disguise.
The downside is that it is meant for advanced users; there's no fancy GUI or "how many attack attempts I have foiled today" or simple options panel. It goes straight into the nitty-gritty, and many advanced vulnerability detections aren't even reflected anywhere. You simply didn't know it had such a capability until one day, you check the log when it flashes red, and it's saying stuff like "http_icon_malformed" or "integer_overflow_exploit" or other heady stuff, together with the backtraced IP, locations and all the de facto security evidence tracelog stuff - although I never ever look at them.

[opt1m4l]

Originally Posted by orca

What about norton ghost?
The one thing that can restore your system if it truly is totally trashed.
Essential utility, the last line of defence if all anti-virus and firewalls fail, and you pull the plug too late. Also just for those who like to tweak the registry or whatknot who may end up with windows refusing to boot.

Btw... general consensus among everyone I met who's reasonably well-versed in networking/computer security - zonealarm is one of the most, if not the most, problematic firewalls. Seen it cock up in every possible scenario and computer, including several times on my own comp until I decided to not install it on my next reformat. It has done before, among other things, screwed up windows or locked many people/systems offline, including my school library.

I'd like to add that I personally use kerio.

Also, you left ISS blackice firewall out of the list, which is truly one of the best, most advanced ones I've seen. It does everything from basic packet and port filtering to dll tracking and what I call "exotic vulnerability observation" - looking after things you'd never ever think of.
One example, is that it also logged down vr-zone as having the possibility of exploiting a loophole rooted in web icons because it (the icon or the machine with the icon, I wouldn't know) has abit of code dealing with said icon that doesn't conform to the standard parameters.
The brilliant thing is that it doesn't flash this as a warning in your face because alot of the time it simply is coding error. But then again, many, many exploits are found through coding accidents, and many seemingly benign errors may be attacks in disguise.
The downside is that it is meant for advanced users; there's no fancy GUI or "how many attack attempts I have foiled today" or simple options panel. It goes straight into the nitty-gritty, and many advanced vulnerability detections aren't even reflected anywhere. You simply didn't know it had such a capability until one day, you check the log when it flashes red, and it's saying stuff like "http_icon_malformed" or "integer_overflow_exploit" or other heady stuff, together with the backtraced IP, locations and all the de facto security evidence tracelog stuff - although I never ever look at them.

soli bro, 4got all abt it sia... ok, will edit me front post to include your share!!

[opt1m4l]

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