[kongque]

Beware of the "Fantasy8923" act.

His act is totally mean to suck your $ without your knowing.
Here it goes.

1st) he might get someone to act like BUYER and offer the price which he already know that he can re-sell and earn some cash/profit out, then follow;(sad for those who has deal with him)

2nd)After the success deal from buying, he will re-sell or export your phone to make a profit for himself.

Please becareful of "Fantasy8923" as his act look like a 2nd hand phone dealer, which he never mention during buying or selling. And by mean to wait for target to earn for his profit and your lost for not knowing the market rate.

Here is his dealing record, which can prove his a dealer
VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community

Guys, Check this his reply
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Pls see Welcome to Mobile Square online ... new phone buy back for N97 is indeed at $700... what's wrong for us to buy your so called "New" N97 at $700 and resell it?

It does not concern or matter you in anyway....
Dealer of course take in at lower price and resell it..this is our living...
*****************************************************
This guy are mean to make a profit for his living in VR-forum. His actual job was a handphone dealer. So when his willing to deal your handset, you got to be extra careful because your handphone MIGHT worth more than his offer for the market rate or you might had paying more for what you own from buying from him.


So he has advised us to check on Welcome to Mobile Square online for all phone dealing benchmark.
(Which he might be close to for benchmarking)
Thank for advice Fantasy8923, but you had forgotten that im a dealer

O..Forgotten to mention my rep records all mainly from seller, and im just a buyer.

And last, just realize that "sand_ste" & "Fantasy8923", might be the same person but less that their know each other, i confirm. Here their trade record from both parties (Who know how many accounts he owns, and try to push the phone price up and down to make more profit from buying and selling)

sand_ste: VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community
Fantasy8923: VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community

[Fantasy8923]

Originally Posted by kongque

Beware of the "Fantasy8923" act.

His act is totally mean to suck your $ without your knowing.
Here it goes.

1st) he might get someone to act like BUYER and offer the price which he already know that he can re-sell and earn some cash/profit out, then follow;(sad for those who has deal with him)

2nd)After the success deal from buying, he will re-sell or export your phone to make a profit for himself.

Please becareful of "Fantasy8923" as his act look like a 2nd hand phone dealer, which he never mention during buying or selling. And by mean to wait for target to earn for his profit and your lost for not knowing the market rate.

Here is his dealing record, which can prove his a dealer
VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community

Guys, Check this his reply
*****************************************************
Pls see Tech News and Product Reviews for Gadget & PC Enthusiasts | VR-Zone ... new phone buy back for N97 is indeed at $700... what's wrong for us to buy your so called "New" N97 at $700 and resell it?

It does not concern or matter you in anyway....
Dealer of course take in at lower price and resell it..this is our living...
*****************************************************
This guy are mean to make a profit for his living in VR-forum. His actual job was a handphone dealer. So when his willing to deal your handset, you got to be extra careful because your handphone MIGHT worth more than his offer for the market rate.


So he has advised us to check on Tech News and Product Reviews for Gadget & PC Enthusiasts | VR-Zone for all phone dealing.
Thank for advice Fantasy8923, but you had forgotten that im a dealer

I submitted a negative feedback of you for a valid reason.

I created a thread on you for awareness.
http://forums.vr-zone.com/handphones...trade-rep.html

I don't see a need for you to follow what I had done. Dun be childish.

The negative trade rep and this thread you given on us are so irrelevant. Ppl know your intention on doing all these.

Don't have to point fingers at dealers. I emphasis again for this case nothing to do with whether am I a dealer or not.

We intend to buy a phone from you. There is no need to tell you what we are working as unless you choose not to deal with dealer (for your case i can understand cos you will choose to sell to end user and hope the buyer won't do a thorough check on phone call timer etc)

There is no reason for you create this thread as it contains all false allegations.

Once again nothing to hide, you asked for $700, we agreed to pay.

You choose to deal at Bishan, we make arrangement to deal there.

Any grounds to support that we purposely asked someone else to deal with you. I don't see a need to do it and seller will only sell at their desired price. Purposely hide our identity (for what purpose? dealer have to pay more if we buy from seller?). Suck your $$ etc..(Don't forget $700 is what you wanted. We pay your asking price...)

Mind your words..

Ppl like you should be blacklisted....

[garyteo]

As seller, why u care if the interested parties are end-user,dealer or CIA/FBI, as long you sell at your agreed selling offer, Who's care.

[Fantasy8923]

Originally Posted by garyteo

As seller, why u care if the interested parties are end-user,dealer or CIA/FBI, as long you sell at your agreed selling offer, Who's care.

Exactly...

Seller ask for a price. Buyer willing to pay for that price. A deal is closed. Simple as it is.

Does it makes any difference on whether the end product bought by the buyer is meant for himself, present or resale? It's up to the buyer what he wants to do with it. Does it matter the seller what is going to happen to his already sold item?

I just don't see a reason or logic on him ''biting'' on us being a dealer? and what's wrong for a dealer to buy and resell the item for profit? If not, what do you want us to do with the phones we bought? put in a cabinet feed spiders?

Your thread is to create awareness against me....Do u think is necessary? Ppl here only sell at their desired price... I never encounter anyone who had sold their item to me against their will.....or at an unreasonable price....

U think this is a primary school or kindergarden?

And if you are warning ppl from buying from me thinking that i might sell them at higher than market value...then you can also save your trouble...ppl only willing to pay for something that worth the value...

And my thread against you is to warn ppl not to buy the N97 from you thinking that it's NEW as what you initially stated in your post but actual fact is an used phone....My thread is very clear and simple. Nothing but facts. Never add oil or salt in it.

Lastly I appreciated that you amended your post...

[Milleniamania]

Hmm. So, based on the thread and the words exchange, neither of the two actually deny that he/she are dealers.

In this case, 2 dealers are here bickering, spewing their quarrels out, washing their dirty linen in the form of thread postings to the main for everyone to see.

I don't think these is helpful in terms of awareness. This is more likely to sabotage your own interests and prospective deals with other ppl.

If you guys can, I suggest those threads be closed for the benefit of both parties.

[Modd-36]

dealer or not dealer, the big DEAL here is the price.
and yes close this thread better.

[sand_ste]

Originally Posted by Milleniamania

Hmm. So, based on the thread and the words exchange, neither of the two actually deny that he/she are dealers.

In this case, 2 dealers are here bickering, spewing their quarrels out, washing their dirty linen in the form of thread postings to the main for everyone to see.

I don't think these is helpful in terms of awareness. This is more likely to sabotage your own interests and prospective deals with other ppl.

If you guys can, I suggest those threads be closed for the benefit of both parties.

objection. fantasy8923 is absolutely accepting himself as a dealer where it, on the first place, was not necessary whether he is a dealer or not.

it all started when the seller started to play cheat.

and fantasy8923, while curiosity struck in, tried to prove if he was indeed a cheater or not.

to the amazement, yes, indeed he was.

so he created this thread of awareness.

he was unhappy, and shooting back, trying to defend his position which was already almost toppled in front of the audience's eyes.

he was twisting the facts here and there like a CSI criminal, trying to protect himself so that not to be on the blaming side, while i presumed that he already knew that he was the one who did the wrongful act.

then he mentioned the part about fantasy8923 being a dealer and stuffs, why? because he has lost every way that can frame fantasy8923 as the suspect. so, he targeted fantasy's stable job.

what does fantasy's say about this? he said, "there's no problem for us being a dealer what... you're not even getting the issues here" now these words, truly indicating that he has already admitted that he IS INDEED a dealer.

now the plantiff here, trying to be hilarious while mentioning on the last part of the original post way above, "thanks fantasy8923 but please do not forget that i am a dealer too"

funny isn't it? it can be seen as two kids fighting over a cookie while trying to prove's who's the superior, but hey, there's only one kid that is so oblivious to the world and so absurd, while the other is just trying to create an awareness. he's not saying that noone can buy from him anymore, he's saying that if you are about to buy something from him, please check again, because his words don't match with the facts.

in the end, millenia, im not trying to shoot u down but trying to make you see that this is no ordinary kids quarelling, they are both adults but someone is really not behaving at their age, so this thread is created. usually when seller/buyer having a problem with their deals, there is only one thread created and not 2, either the seller or buyer appologised and thats the end of the story. but this drama-mama behaved differently, and as far as my eyes (or maybe your eyes) can see, he is really not a 30-year old man. and to me, he is really not a dealer at all, if he is actually a dealer, why would he mentioned about being treated like a buyer with another dealer where i assume that if, he, indeed a dealer, he should already knew it by then. nothing personal between me and you. peace.

now he removed that part because everyone knew he was not a dealer.. and changed with me being the copy of fantasy8923

[sand_ste]

Originally Posted by kongque

Beware of the "Fantasy8923" act.

His act is totally mean to suck your $ without your knowing.
Here it goes.

1st) he might get someone to act like BUYER and offer the price which he already know that he can re-sell and earn some cash/profit out, then follow;(sad for those who has deal with him)

2nd)After the success deal from buying, he will re-sell or export your phone to make a profit for himself.

Please becareful of "Fantasy8923" as his act look like a 2nd hand phone dealer, which he never mention during buying or selling. And by mean to wait for target to earn for his profit and your lost for not knowing the market rate.

Here is his dealing record, which can prove his a dealer
VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community

Guys, Check this his reply
*****************************************************
Pls see Welcome to Mobile Square online ... new phone buy back for N97 is indeed at $700... what's wrong for us to buy your so called "New" N97 at $700 and resell it?

It does not concern or matter you in anyway....
Dealer of course take in at lower price and resell it..this is our living...
*****************************************************
This guy are mean to make a profit for his living in VR-forum. His actual job was a handphone dealer. So when his willing to deal your handset, you got to be extra careful because your handphone MIGHT worth more than his offer for the market rate.


So he has advised us to check on Welcome to Mobile Square online for all phone dealing benchmark.
(Which he might be close to for benchmarking)
Thank for advice Fantasy8923, but you had forgotten that im a dealer

O..Forgotten to mention my rep records all mainly from seller, and im just a buyer.

And last, just realize that "sand_ste" & "Fantasy8923", might be the same person but less that their know each other, i confirm. Here their trade record from both parties (Who know how many accounts he owns, and try to push the phone price up and down to make more profit from buying and selling)

sand_ste: VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community
Fantasy8923: VRForums - IT & Singapore Lifestyle Community

Jesus Christ, you are really one hard SOB, do you want to meet us face to face, to see if we are the same person?

[hinata76]

aiyo................1 buy the phone,another sells...hard meh? most importantly is both parties happy..
'Seller ask for a price. Buyer willing to pay for that price. A deal is closed. Simple as it is. '

[roticanai92]

first of all, kongque i think u failed.
Fantasy8923 wanted to buy ur phone and expected it to be sparkling new, but found out on the site it is not.
then, he suspected your not disclosing the information tat your phone is actually used at 20:00.
so he makes a thread for awareness.

and you are so not happy, u open this nonsense thread just to bombard him.
the funny part is you say dealers like him are bad coz they suck ur money, but you're telling tat yourself is also a dealer too!

C'mon la, just live with it, if its not because of this thread, I wouldn't know bout ur style of selling by telling used phones as new, then maybe next time I'll buy from u.
so for the benefit of both parties, close la.

[roticanai92]

'Seller ask for a price. Buyer willing to pay for that price. A deal is closed. Simple as it is. '

[Modd-36]

lol. its kinda funny... dealer saying bad things about another dealer.. its like.. u facing the mirror and saying it to yourself and furthermore, u so proud saying ure a dealer.

lol.

this cracks my morning. its funny.

thank a lot.

and they are not the same person.

[toolss]

Originally Posted by garyteo

As seller, why u care if the interested parties are end-user,dealer or CIA/FBI, as long you sell at your agreed selling offer, Who's care.

HAHA... i like this.. next time i will tell ppl.. I m FBI.. maybe can get better discount..

[Fantasy8923]

Dealer or not dealer makes a difference?

Maybe it really make a difference!

i think if i'm a normal buyer, this thread would not had been created and misused by him.....

[Modd-36]

Originally Posted by toolss

HAHA... i like this.. next time i will tell ppl.. I m FBI.. maybe can get better discount..

no u must say u son of the president then u get it free.

LOL