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Intel Discrete GPU Roadmap Overview Visionary Feb 7th, 07, 10:28 PM #1

Intel's Visual Computing Group (VCG) gave an interesting overview of the discrete graphics plans this week. There seems to be a few interesting developments down the pipeline that could prove quite a challenge to NVIDIA and AMD in 2 years time. As already stated on their website, the group is focused on developing advanced products based on a many-core architecture targeting high-end client platforms initially. Their first flagship product for games and graphics intensive applications is likely to happen in late 2008-09 timeframe and the GPU is based on multi-core architecture. We heard there could be as many as 16 graphics cores packed into a single die.

The process technology we speculate for such product is probably at 32nm judging from the timeframe. Intel clearly has the advantage of their advanced process technology since they are always at least one node ahead of their competitors and they are good in tweaking for better yield. Intel is likely use back their CPU naming convention on GPU so you could probably guess that the highest end could be called Extreme Edition and there should be mainstream and value editions. The performance? How about 16x performance of any fastest graphics card out there now [referring to G80] as claimed. Anyway it is hard to speculate who will lead by then as it will be DX10.1/11 era with NVIDIA G9x and ATi R7xx around.

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ghemml Feb 7th, 07, 10:36 PM #2
One of the Major advanatges of Intel is... they can produce GPU on small die size technology... rather than hogging on situation that Nvidia and ATI faces... Intel now in 65nm, GPU still build on 80nm...

Is it 80nm... maybe it could be bigger...
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booest Feb 7th, 07, 11:05 PM #3
nnbz.. reach the shelves first then say dah..

else A-Ray-then..... wait again

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xrM Feb 7th, 07, 11:09 PM #4
Hopefully they will stop packing lousy integrated gfx into OEM computers
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PiNgPiNg Feb 7th, 07, 11:12 PM #5
woots more players in gfx market
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Nashaz Feb 8th, 07, 12:09 AM #6
But by that time who knows what nvidia will have?... scally got nvidia cpu... since cpu can contain gpu, why not gpu contain cpu?... btw forgot to add earlier on... in a period of about 1 year nvidia revealed the seven series AND the 8 series... not to mention 600 series chipsets as well... imagine what they will have in 2 years....

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xrM Feb 8th, 07, 11:07 AM #7
Soon Intel, nVidia and ATI will all have CPU, GPU, PPU, Chipset
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Intel Sucks jagjitnatt Feb 8th, 07, 02:38 PM #8
We have seen enough of Intel Gpus and I feel intel can never compare to NVidia and AMD. Intel GPUs can't even run Aero. Forget 16 times the performance of G80. They may use 16 cores for Gpu but we have already seen 24 pipe Gpus and further if Intel uses 16 cores for graphics there would be nothing left for processing the physics and the rest of the processing.

And for the 80nm and 65nm things let me explain that GPUs are a lot lot more complex than Cpus. It is easier to build a Cpu on 45nm than to build a GPU on 65nm. AMD will be be making the R610 and R630 on 65nm process. They will be available in april.
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Intel Sucks. jagjitnatt Feb 8th, 07, 02:42 PM #9
Intel will never be able to compare to NVidia and AMD. Intel sucks at graphics processing. Even if Intel makes a 16 core processor it won't be able to utilise all of them for Gpu instructions. It will also need to process physics and textures and a million more things which will slow it down. RAM would be a bottleneck too. FSB is already maxing out. No way Intel will achieve that. AMD's Fusion will really kill Intel.

NVidia is working on a CPU and will come with one next year. Amd already has everything ready. It just needs to fuse it. Intel is just gonna reach nowhere.
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medallion Feb 8th, 07, 02:44 PM #10
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xrM Feb 8th, 07, 02:48 PM #11
jagjitnatt, who knows? Give intel 5 years, they might be able to reach where nvidia and ATI are now.
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Nashaz Feb 8th, 07, 02:58 PM #12
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jagjitnatt, who knows? Give intel 5 years, they might be able to reach where nvidia and ATI are now.
but then, where would nvidia and ati be in that time?... a couple more years ahead of intel in 5 yrs time... wahahaha..... but anyway i agree with jagjinatt...but intel confirm wont be able to beat nvidia or ati in the graphic sector... but not too sure about the cpu sector.... as in pure cpu power... cause amd seems a bit behind schedual in cpu power... but the fusion wll be interesting though....

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cheapsupps Feb 8th, 07, 03:03 PM #13
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but then, where would nvidia and ati be in that time?... a couple more years ahead of intel in 5 yrs time... wahahaha..... but anyway i agree with jagjinatt...but intel confirm wont be able to beat nvidia or ati in the graphic sector... but not too sure about the cpu sector.... as in pure cpu power... cause amd seems a bit behind schedual in cpu power... but the fusion wll be interesting though....
they have money... Money can do wonders...
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penguin1 Feb 8th, 07, 03:08 PM #14
nevertheless they will be new in the graphic market while nv and ati has already made a name..

just like apple's new iphone or microsoft zune? they arent going strong.
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Nashaz Feb 8th, 07, 03:10 PM #15
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they have money... Money can do wonders...
Money isn everything.... look at microsoft... they are so freaking rich but when vista came out its got so many problems.... if money can fix everything y didn it come out perfect in the first place?.... if 5 years wasn enough for them to perfect vista, what makes u think intel can make a chip that can rival nvidia or ati when they are so far back?....

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