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I'm getting confused ,Yonah/Merom is Socket 478 or 479? maxdy Sep 15th, 06, 10:46 AM #1

ok. here's the problem.

Celeron M/Pentium M is on the mobile socket which was termed: Socket 479.
some tell me Socket 479 is actually exactly the same as sockt 478. just that intel change the number to show the differences between mobile and desktop.

Core Duo and Core 2 Duo mobile are also on the platform termed: Socket 479.
then floppy tell me it's actually a socket 478 processor on a socket 478 socket.


so now, which is which? i'm confused liao.
i thought intel just implement everything that is mobile onto socket478 and just termed it socket 479?



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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 10:53 AM #2
Let me give you another thing to ponder on.

Why is there a 479 to 478 convertor?

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maxdy Sep 15th, 06, 10:55 AM #3
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Let me give you another thing to ponder on.

Why is there a 479 to 478 convertor?

piangs. now i'm really dead.

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:18 AM #4
yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479

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skweam Sep 15th, 06, 11:19 AM #5
so how to check if the chip is a merom? t5600 and t7200 are meroms??
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nilfire77 Sep 15th, 06, 11:21 AM #6
Intel's 479 Socket Explained and Compared to the 478 Socket Processor.

There seems to be a lot of confusion going around concerning what Intel's 479 socket processor is all about. This guide has been written to clarify this issue once and for all. What is the real difference between the 479 socket and the 478 socket and which processors fall into each category?

The familiar 478-pin socket processor gets it's name from the number of gold-plated pins connecting the CPU to the motherboard. You'll find this pin configuration on the majority of today's Pentium 4 processors with the exception of the more recent pin-less design of the 775 socket. The easiest way to distinguish this style of processor is to look at the placement of the two missing pins. In the picture below you will see in the bottom right corner of the processor the two empty spaces adjacent to one another.


On the motherboard you will also find the same two spots where there will be no pin holes. By lining these up you can assure that you have set the CPU into the motherboard socket facing the proper direction each time. This is your standard 478-pin socket processor.

Now let's move on to the 479-pin socket.
The thing that tends to confuse people when it comes to the 479 socket is that it actually has 478 pins. The 479 label was adapted in order to prevent confusion between the two similar pin configurations. This may have back-fired because when you look up the stats of a 479 processor on Intel's website or in their product documentation it describes the package type as a 478-pin configuration. It never fails when I list a 479 processor on ebay and include the Intel spec sheet I will always get at least one or two emails trying to correct the 'error' in my listing. Nonetheless, the two sockets are not compatible.

The 479 socket is most commonly seen in the Pentium M processor. These processors are used in conjunction with the Centrino Mobile technology which is obviously intended for use in laptop computers. Although with their ability to operate at low temperatures, with efficient power consumption and the whopping 2MB of L2 (level 2) cache memory found on the more recent models, it is no wonder so many people have been adapting these CPU's for use on their desktop computers. Asus even released an adapter that will convert the 479 processor to work on a few select Asus 478 desktop boards.

In the picture below can see how the pin configuration differs from the 478 socket layout.


In the bottom right you will see that the 479 socket has the two missing pins diagonal from each other. This is the easiest way to tell whether you are dealing with a 478 or 479 socket processor.

Hope that helps.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s...00000000074521

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:22 AM #7
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so how to check if the chip is a merom? t5600 and t7200 are meroms??

2mb and 4 mb cache diff lor.

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:31 AM #8
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yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479

ok... i might be wrong..

here is a better pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_479

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thaddeus Sep 15th, 06, 11:33 AM #9
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Socket M (sometimes referred to as FCPGA6) is a CPU interface introduced by Intel in 2006 for the Intel Core line of mobile processors [1]. It is currently used in all Intel Core products, as well as the Core-derived Dual-Core Xeon codenamed "Sossaman". It is also used in the first generation of the mobile version of Intel's Core 2 Duo, specifically, the T5x00 and T7x00 ("Merom") lines, though that line will switch to Socket P in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_M
if going to shift to Socket P then why bother buying Socket M now?
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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 11:35 AM #10
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if going to shift to Socket P then why bother buying Socket M now?
Because the waiting game is never ending. You wait till Socket P, they'll release something else.


So you wait again..and again ..and again.....
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thaddeus Sep 15th, 06, 11:37 AM #11
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Because the waiting game is never ending. You wait till Socket P, they'll release something else.


So you wait again..and again ..and again.....
the bigger question is whether there will be any performance improvement from Socket M to Socket P.

PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?
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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 11:38 AM #12
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the bigger question is whether there will be any performance improvement from Socket M to Socket P.

PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?

So its the same isnt it? A new item is out and the upcoming item is performing better and thus you wait and wait....
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thaddeus Sep 15th, 06, 11:41 AM #13
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So its the same isnt it? A new item is out and the upcoming item is performing better and thus you wait and wait....
maybe its like S939 to AM2.

a DDR2 change only.
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skweam Sep 15th, 06, 11:58 AM #14
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PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?
haha, its not like that ar i think
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floppy Sep 15th, 06, 12:07 PM #15
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yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479
Merom and Yonahs are using the Socket M, 478pins. pin layout is slightly different from the mpga 478 socket.

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c1.php

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c2.php
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