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I'm getting confused ,Yonah/Merom is Socket 478 or 479? maxdy Sep 15th, 06, 10:46 AM #1

ok. here's the problem.

Celeron M/Pentium M is on the mobile socket which was termed: Socket 479.
some tell me Socket 479 is actually exactly the same as sockt 478. just that intel change the number to show the differences between mobile and desktop.

Core Duo and Core 2 Duo mobile are also on the platform termed: Socket 479.
then floppy tell me it's actually a socket 478 processor on a socket 478 socket.


so now, which is which? i'm confused liao.
i thought intel just implement everything that is mobile onto socket478 and just termed it socket 479?



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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 10:53 AM #2
Let me give you another thing to ponder on.

Why is there a 479 to 478 convertor?

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maxdy Sep 15th, 06, 10:55 AM #3
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Let me give you another thing to ponder on.

Why is there a 479 to 478 convertor?

piangs. now i'm really dead.

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:18 AM #4
yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479

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skweam Sep 15th, 06, 11:19 AM #5
so how to check if the chip is a merom? t5600 and t7200 are meroms??
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nilfire77 Sep 15th, 06, 11:21 AM #6
Intel's 479 Socket Explained and Compared to the 478 Socket Processor.

There seems to be a lot of confusion going around concerning what Intel's 479 socket processor is all about. This guide has been written to clarify this issue once and for all. What is the real difference between the 479 socket and the 478 socket and which processors fall into each category?

The familiar 478-pin socket processor gets it's name from the number of gold-plated pins connecting the CPU to the motherboard. You'll find this pin configuration on the majority of today's Pentium 4 processors with the exception of the more recent pin-less design of the 775 socket. The easiest way to distinguish this style of processor is to look at the placement of the two missing pins. In the picture below you will see in the bottom right corner of the processor the two empty spaces adjacent to one another.


On the motherboard you will also find the same two spots where there will be no pin holes. By lining these up you can assure that you have set the CPU into the motherboard socket facing the proper direction each time. This is your standard 478-pin socket processor.

Now let's move on to the 479-pin socket.
The thing that tends to confuse people when it comes to the 479 socket is that it actually has 478 pins. The 479 label was adapted in order to prevent confusion between the two similar pin configurations. This may have back-fired because when you look up the stats of a 479 processor on Intel's website or in their product documentation it describes the package type as a 478-pin configuration. It never fails when I list a 479 processor on ebay and include the Intel spec sheet I will always get at least one or two emails trying to correct the 'error' in my listing. Nonetheless, the two sockets are not compatible.

The 479 socket is most commonly seen in the Pentium M processor. These processors are used in conjunction with the Centrino Mobile technology which is obviously intended for use in laptop computers. Although with their ability to operate at low temperatures, with efficient power consumption and the whopping 2MB of L2 (level 2) cache memory found on the more recent models, it is no wonder so many people have been adapting these CPU's for use on their desktop computers. Asus even released an adapter that will convert the 479 processor to work on a few select Asus 478 desktop boards.

In the picture below can see how the pin configuration differs from the 478 socket layout.


In the bottom right you will see that the 479 socket has the two missing pins diagonal from each other. This is the easiest way to tell whether you are dealing with a 478 or 479 socket processor.

Hope that helps.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s...00000000074521

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:22 AM #7
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so how to check if the chip is a merom? t5600 and t7200 are meroms??

2mb and 4 mb cache diff lor.

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booest Sep 15th, 06, 11:31 AM #8
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yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479

ok... i might be wrong..

here is a better pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_479

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Socket M (sometimes referred to as FCPGA6) is a CPU interface introduced by Intel in 2006 for the Intel Core line of mobile processors [1]. It is currently used in all Intel Core products, as well as the Core-derived Dual-Core Xeon codenamed "Sossaman". It is also used in the first generation of the mobile version of Intel's Core 2 Duo, specifically, the T5x00 and T7x00 ("Merom") lines, though that line will switch to Socket P in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_M
if going to shift to Socket P then why bother buying Socket M now?
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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 11:35 AM #10
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if going to shift to Socket P then why bother buying Socket M now?
Because the waiting game is never ending. You wait till Socket P, they'll release something else.


So you wait again..and again ..and again.....
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thaddeus Sep 15th, 06, 11:37 AM #11
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Because the waiting game is never ending. You wait till Socket P, they'll release something else.


So you wait again..and again ..and again.....
the bigger question is whether there will be any performance improvement from Socket M to Socket P.

PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?
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dr_disciple Sep 15th, 06, 11:38 AM #12
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the bigger question is whether there will be any performance improvement from Socket M to Socket P.

PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?

So its the same isnt it? A new item is out and the upcoming item is performing better and thus you wait and wait....
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thaddeus Sep 15th, 06, 11:41 AM #13
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So its the same isnt it? A new item is out and the upcoming item is performing better and thus you wait and wait....
maybe its like S939 to AM2.

a DDR2 change only.
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skweam Sep 15th, 06, 11:58 AM #14
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PS: why they missed out Socket N and O?
haha, its not like that ar i think
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floppy Sep 15th, 06, 12:07 PM #15
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yonah and merom is 479m

dothans are 479
Merom and Yonahs are using the Socket M, 478pins. pin layout is slightly different from the mpga 478 socket.

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c1.php

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-c2.php
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Premature Best Buy listing outs Moto 360 price and near-complete list of features http://vr-zone.com/articles/premature-best-buy-listing-outs-moto-360-price-near-complete-list-features/81316.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=premature-best-buy-listing-outs-moto-360-price-near-complete-list-features http://vr-zone.com/articles/premature-best-buy-listing-outs-moto-360-price-near-complete-list-features/81316.html#comments Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:21:01 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81316 After gathering numerous bleak pricing hints in regards to the unveiled-but-not-yet-released Motorola Moto 360 smartwatch, it comes as a very nice last-minute surprise that the Android Wear timepiece is officially listed at a palatable $250. Still likely a few weeks away from a commercial launch, the hotly anticipated Moto 360 has just been exposed by...

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5.5-inch ‘iPhone 6L’ tipped as 2,915 mAh battery beast, 4.7-inch iPhone 6 packs 1,810 mAh http://vr-zone.com/articles/5-5-inch-iphone-6l-tipped-2915-mah-battery-beast-4-7-inch-iphone-6-packs-1810-mah/81311.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=5-5-inch-iphone-6l-tipped-2915-mah-battery-beast-4-7-inch-iphone-6-packs-1810-mah http://vr-zone.com/articles/5-5-inch-iphone-6l-tipped-2915-mah-battery-beast-4-7-inch-iphone-6-packs-1810-mah/81311.html#comments Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:48:19 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81311 With a little over three weeks reportedly left until Apple finally brings to light the greatly anticipated iPhone 6 pair, the battery capacity puzzle seems fully settled, although the latest purported leaks out of Asia, like all Asian leaks, have to be taken with prudence. For a perennially vigilant tech giant vis-à-vis unauthorized spills of...

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HTC One E8, aka plastic-made M8, en route to America’s Sprint http://vr-zone.com/articles/htc-one-e8-aka-plastic-made-m8-en-route-americas-sprint/81302.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=htc-one-e8-aka-plastic-made-m8-en-route-americas-sprint http://vr-zone.com/articles/htc-one-e8-aka-plastic-made-m8-en-route-americas-sprint/81302.html#comments Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:06:08 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81302 HTC’s fantastic in plastic, affordable, single rear camera-sporting take on the all-metal One M8, confusingly named One E8, is apparently headed stateside, after going live in a handful of European and Asian territories back in June. I bet you did not see this coming. Nor did we. I mean, we did, but a while ago,...

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Kateeva’s coating makes bendable displays affordable http://vr-zone.com/articles/kateevas-coating-makes-bendable-displays-affordable/81296.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kateevas-coating-makes-bendable-displays-affordable http://vr-zone.com/articles/kateevas-coating-makes-bendable-displays-affordable/81296.html#comments Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:38:49 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81296 California-based Kateeva claims to have invented a flexible coating which can seal OLED displays. Their coating, which costs half the price of other alternatives, would allow for production of bendable screens at affordable prices. Bendable displays have been showing up at trade shows for a few years now, but the technology is still prohibitively expensive....

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Near-complete Samsung Galaxy Note 4 spec sheet surfaces, teasing also begins http://vr-zone.com/articles/near-complete-samsung-galaxy-note-4-spec-sheet-surfaces-teasing-also-begins/81289.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=near-complete-samsung-galaxy-note-4-spec-sheet-surfaces-teasing-also-begins http://vr-zone.com/articles/near-complete-samsung-galaxy-note-4-spec-sheet-surfaces-teasing-also-begins/81289.html#comments Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:20:09 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81289 You’d think Samsung would be in full damage control mode now that nearly everything there is to know about its upcoming Galaxy Note 4 is out, but even as a credible, semi-exhaustive list of features transpires, the Koreans insist on keeping mystery in the air. Everybody ready to start the countdown? We’re officially 19 days...

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First Asus smartwatch headed for market in September with Android Wear on board http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-asus-smartwatch-headed-market-september-android-wear-board/81283.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=first-asus-smartwatch-headed-market-september-android-wear-board http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-asus-smartwatch-headed-market-september-android-wear-board/81283.html#comments Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:21:18 +0000 http://vr-zone.com/?p=81283 Unlike Sony, which stubbornly wagers on a proprietary smartwatch OS, Asus reportedly plans to keep its wearable efforts simple and adopt the growing Android Wear platform. It was pretty much set in stone when we first heard about it, via “sources in the know”, but now you can deem it official too. As per statements...

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