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Quad Core Battle : Intel Yorkfield vs AMD Altair Shamino Oct 4th, 06, 04:59 PM #1




Yorkfield Extreme Edition based on the 45nm Penry core architecture will meet heads-on with AMD Altair based on the 65nm K8L core in Q3 2007. Both are quad core offerings but AMD touted theirs to be a native quad-core with dedicated 512KB L2 cache for each core and an additional 2MB L3 cache for the 4 cores to share. Intel has different plans for Yorkfield. Instead of sharing L2 cache for all the cores, the L2 cache size is further increased. Due to its advanced 45nm process technology, Yorkfield XE is able to pack a total of 12MB L2 cache (2 x 6MB L2) and still achieving a much smaller die size. The clock speed is significantly higher at 3.46-3.74GHz too.

Yorkfield will feature Penryn New Instructions (PNI) or more officially known as SSE4 with 50 more new instructions. Yorkfield XE will pair up nicely with the Bearlake-X chipset supporting DDR3 1333, PCI Express 2.0 and ICH9x coming in the Q3 '07 timeframe as well. It is hard to predict which architecture will win eventually but it seems like AMD has packed more innovations into their K8L architecture while Intel moving onto 45nm process benefits its Yorkfield greatly in terms of lower power consumption, higher clock speed and a much bigger L2 cache. Certainly it is exciting ahead of us.


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Zakaria (x3m) Oct 4th, 06, 05:07 PM #2
Hey shamino Yorkfield is clocked higher and all.. Hmm izzit for gaming or mainstream??

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blargman Oct 4th, 06, 05:59 PM #3
that sounds like death for AMD. :\ they have to put out something sooner than q3 of '07! :\

seems awfully optimistic though too for Intel. Intel using 45nm process in q3, seems to soon. i mean they just rolled out 65nm :\
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glyfone Oct 4th, 06, 06:03 PM #4
its definitely getting very exciting next year.
saving my $$$ for it
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swiftwing Oct 4th, 06, 06:41 PM #5
I don't quite understand why Intel is still sticking to their 2 dual-core in 1 package approach in Q3'07.
I mean they have Kentsfield ready to go in a few months and one would think a process shrink to 45nm would allow them to do 4 cores on 1 die, or are they just waiting for AMD to demo a proper 4 core chip before responding since the 2 dies in 1 package method would give higher yields?
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gongkia2000 Oct 4th, 06, 06:42 PM #6
i have been waiting for AMD's comeback for a long long time, but they dont even seem close even in 2007
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jwhf Oct 4th, 06, 07:12 PM #7
i'm still a little confused, is AMD going with the 4 x 4 concept or the 4 cores in 1 die concept?
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hwmook Oct 4th, 06, 07:18 PM #8
you all are writing AMD off without even looking at the product? I would come back and laugh at you guys when AMD come out with a gem. remember who came out with a native dual core processor and hog the limelight. A native quad again. i won't put my money on intel winning the next round when they are still sticking to the same design.
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chong Oct 4th, 06, 10:49 PM #9
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i'm still a little confused, is AMD going with the 4 x 4 concept or the 4 cores in 1 die concept?
4x4 coming in end-06
4core in 1 die coming in mid-07

all info above gathered from the net
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NightRaven Oct 4th, 06, 11:45 PM #10
q3 07 is a long way!
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Shrek Oct 4th, 06, 11:48 PM #11
i thought yorksfield is 8 core?
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kvm Oct 4th, 06, 11:55 PM #12
This war is starting to heat up.
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AMD has not even begun to show off there Native Quad-Core MONSTER... Super XP Oct 11th, 06, 08:35 AM #13
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4x4 coming in end-06
4core in 1 die coming in mid-07

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AMD's 4x4 platform called the Quad-Father is coming Q4 2006
AMD's Native Quad-Core "Code Name" Barcelona (4 core / 1 die) is coming Q2 2007. (K8L is not from AMD, so K8L is really the Barcelona Quad-Core. There is much faster versions coming out)

AMD is not out of the picture, there Native Quad-Core is +80% faster then there Dual Core Opterons & Athlon 64 Fx's CPU's.

They really have a technological & innovative product. Just look at its architecture before many of you pass judgement without knowing the facts.
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Also, Intel "Cannot" come out with a 4 core in 1 die because there current architecture cannot accommodate this. The only way they may possibly do something like this is by crapping the age old FSB & replacing it with something similar to AMD's HTT & integrating the memory controller, or keep the FSB, but integrate the memory controller. But once again, can you imagine 4 cores being feed by one single FSB? That would be suicide IMO.

So, for Intel's current CPU design, they require to increase the cache size to minimize FSB bottlenecks. A high cache for Intel CPU's will benefit Intel for that very reason. Where as AMD does not require a large cache, but if they were to implement one large enough, it would bring the cost of the CPU up, but at the same time use that extra cache much more efficiently then Intel CPU's could ever do.
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longsiew Oct 11th, 06, 09:20 AM #14
It is still too early to make any judgement from now.

We can only judge when the chip is in overclockers' hands
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Hairyworm Oct 11th, 06, 11:19 AM #15
If u r talking abt gaming, Quad-Core does NOT improve game performance.

But for multi-tasking, of cos it makes a difference.
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