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lin san Mar 12th, 06, 12:13 AM #46

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Is BENQ selling 20" 2091 or 2092 (resolution 1600X1200)? Do you know the price? Thanks.
Checked Benq totay, only selling wide screen , no 4:3 20" model LCD available.
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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 11:58 AM #47
Wahz... The Benq 202 is really a good buy at $649 - 20", 1680x1050, 8ms...

Anybody knows if this model can select fixed AR / native resolution, i.e. if signal is 1024x768 then the displayed image stays at 4:3 (rather than stretch to 1680x1050)? Important for playing games at lower resolutions.

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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 12:12 PM #48
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Checked Benq totay, only selling wide screen , no 4:3 20" model LCD available.
I've considered the FP2901 model before - IMO this display not favourable either way... Contrast rating too low for CAD / graphics / photo editing, on the other hand the 16ms response time not fantastic for gaming.

Couldn't find a 1600x1200 one with the right specs and fit within my budget, so still waiting for the 'business' models to 'fall' into the consumer market. :

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weixiang Mar 12th, 06, 12:15 PM #49
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so still waiting for the 'business' models to 'fall' into the consumer market. :
is this likely to happen..?

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domho7 Mar 12th, 06, 12:16 PM #50
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Wahz... The Benq 202 is really a good buy at $649 - 20", 1680x1050, 8ms...

Anybody knows if this model can select fixed AR / native resolution, i.e. if signal is 1024x768 then the displayed image stays at 4:3 (rather than stretch to 1680x1050)? Important for playing games at lower resolutions.
But currently no stock for this leh, must pre order collect from Skylet.
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yslee Mar 12th, 06, 04:09 PM #51
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I've considered the FP2901 model before - IMO this display not favourable either way... Contrast rating too low for CAD / graphics / photo editing, on the other hand the 16ms response time not fantastic for gaming.

Couldn't find a 1600x1200 one with the right specs and fit within my budget, so still waiting for the 'business' models to 'fall' into the consumer market. :
Nonsense, I'm using the Dell counterpart now and it's fantastic. Calibrate it with a GregtagMacbeth and it does good work. 16ms on a SIPS panel is better than TN or MVA at 16ms. Don't let the numbers decieve you!
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od00bo Mar 12th, 06, 04:24 PM #52
Why 19 and 20inch lcd the price gap quite a difference? 19inch analog less than $500 can get and 20inch type (analog too?) mostly at $700+/- ?
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od00bo Mar 12th, 06, 04:28 PM #53
Sorry again can anyone briefly explain what SIPS panel and etc.. what are the main difference between them? Thanks
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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 04:45 PM #54
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But currently no stock for this leh, must pre order collect from Skylet.
At that price I guess it was expected. Customers are becoming savvy...

weixiang well usually the retail products get discon i.e. so the business-type products don't cross over into the consumer-type market. But the OEM parts aren't so distinct, so I won't be surprised if the flat panel previously used in a $2k high-end display becomes relegated someday into a $1k mid-end model. It's just a matter of the cost of the part on the OEM market, and the sourcing by last-tier manufacturer.

I'm just waiting those 1600x1200 panels to become 'mainstream' enough and fall into the sub-$1k category.

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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 05:04 PM #55
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Nonsense, I'm using the Dell counterpart now and it's fantastic. Calibrate it with a GregtagMacbeth and it does good work. 16ms on a SIPS panel is better than TN or MVA at 16ms. Don't let the numbers decieve you!
Bro not everyone here uses (or even know about) GretagMacbeth! But you're right, with the right calibration the colors can improve significantly.

Nevertheless the numbers to a certain extent show the 'limitations' of the display - even with calibration sometimes the medium / method of the display is just unable to deliver. Yes SIPS is superior to TN in some ways but then I expect the specs to be 'impartial' to either type. BTW I would consider color reproduction (gamut) and contrast (dynamic range) separately, but its not generally understood that way.

Anyways... The problem really is that I can't just buy and try - it's a lot of money wasted if it turns out to be a dud! So sometimes I have to depend on the specs to make an 'informed' decision. But thanks bro for the tip / advice.

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weixiang Mar 12th, 06, 05:06 PM #56
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At that price I guess it was expected. Customers are becoming savvy...

weixiang well usually the retail products get discon i.e. so the business-type products don't cross over into the consumer-type market. But the OEM parts aren't so distinct, so I won't be surprised if the flat panel previously used in a $2k high-end display becomes relegated someday into a $1k mid-end model. It's just a matter of the cost of the part on the OEM market, and the sourcing by last-tier manufacturer.

I'm just waiting those 1600x1200 panels to become 'mainstream' enough and fall into the sub-$1k category.
i see...so hope the 20" and above move down..? hahaha

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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 05:09 PM #57
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Sorry again can anyone briefly explain what SIPS panel and etc.. what are the main difference between them? Thanks
They are types of TFT LCD control, i.e. the electrical part of displaying the image. TFT really just refers to the 'medium', whereas TN/SIPS is the specific 'method'. Check it out in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

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weixiang Mar 12th, 06, 05:11 PM #58
i beo-ing the FP202 liao....buay tahan liao....orgasm liao....

sian...tempted to the dark side...still wanna be Jedi leh...

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draftspeed Mar 12th, 06, 05:13 PM #59
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i beo-ing the FP202 liao....buay tahan liao....orgasm liao....

sian...tempted to the dark side...still wanna be Jedi leh...
LOL what is so "dark side" about the BenQ?

Anyway I think I really OT liao. Got any customer review for the viewsonic?

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weixiang Mar 12th, 06, 05:20 PM #60
hmm...spend $$ again lor....hahahaha....
yah hope some1 review the viewsonic to0..it's a battle between this 2..

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