[SYY]

Originally Posted by cybotmaster

PES A. That's combat fit, right? Just to double check...

yea u are...juz b sure to perform well during ur BMT bud not to overdo it until too wayang...expect to see many wayang ppl cuz they also wanna go for OCS too..

[reddevil0728]

Btw only leadership batch can go command school. Standard batch very very very low chance

[cywong]

ehh, sorry ah.
some of the terms you guys used seemed really foreign to pre-enlistees like me.
care to explain wad's leadership/modified/enhanced/standard batch?

and, from what i know, for next year, there are like 6 days for normal intake, [if i didn't rmb wrongly]: 3, 4, 5 feb (school 1, 2, 3 respectively) and 26, 27, 28 apr (sch 1, 2, 3 resp) [frm what i gathered frm my jc frends].

so 28 apr is considered which kind of batch?
and what does command school mean?
and what's OOT?

hee.

[SYY]

Originally Posted by cywong

ehh, sorry ah.
some of the terms you guys used seemed really foreign to pre-enlistees like me.
care to explain wad's leadership/modified/enhanced/standard batch?

and, from what i know, for next year, there are like 6 days for normal intake, [if i didn't rmb wrongly]: 3, 4, 5 feb (school 1, 2, 3 respectively) and 26, 27, 28 apr (sch 1, 2, 3 resp) [frm what i gathered frm my jc frends].

so 28 apr is considered which kind of batch?
and what does command school mean?
and what's OOT?

hee.

ahh...ok lemme shed some light for u...

in BMT, the standard batch = for those overweight/fail napfa in school, thus it would be longer since they are not as fit...then there comes the modified batch which is the pes C batch and its usually bout 7 weeks only...leadership/enhance batch is the 9 weeks BMT batch which is more likely than the other 2 to enter command school, which is OCS, as well as sispec...

OOT, or some may know it as OOC, refers to Out Of Training/Course, which makes u fail BMT and remain as a REC for ur NS life until u go for the recourse which is usually a few mths b4 u ORD...this is likely to happen if u suffer any injuries during your BMT...also, take note that there are certain criteria to pass BMT, likely goin for the full 24km route march, field camp, live range....and a IPPT pass(silver) or even a gold would also increase ur chances to get into command school...bud no guarantee though...

[Limeee]

btw just to check whats ur education lvl? cause for ocs and sispec u need to have a dip or a lvl cert

[kyouta]

Originally Posted by Limeee

btw just to check whats ur education lvl? cause for ocs and sispec u need to have a dip or a lvl cert

yeap yeap

[reddevil0728]

Originally Posted by SYY

ahh...ok lemme shed some light for u...

in BMT, the standard batch = for those overweight/fail napfa in school, thus it would be longer since they are not as fit...then there comes the modified batch which is the pes C batch and its usually bout 7 weeks only...leadership/enhance batch is the 9 weeks BMT batch which is more likely than the other 2 to enter command school, which is OCS, as well as sispec...

OOT, or some may know it as OOC, refers to Out Of Training/Course, which makes u fail BMT and remain as a REC for ur NS life until u go for the recourse which is usually a few mths b4 u ORD...this is likely to happen if u suffer any injuries during your BMT...also, take note that there are certain criteria to pass BMT, likely goin for the full 24km route march, field camp, live range....and a IPPT pass(silver) or even a gold would also increase ur chances to get into command school...bud no guarantee though...

Eh I think you got it wrong.
You compare STANDARD VS LEADERSHIP:
Standard batch means you are highly unlikely to get into command school
Leadership batch means you got high chance to get into command school

PTP VS ENHANCED:
PTP (PHYSICAL TRAINING PHASE): For those who didn't manage to get at least a NAPFA (SILVER), you will enlist earlier and undergo 8 weeks of physical training to build up your physical fitness and thereafter follow by 9 weeks of BMT.
ENHANCED: For those who get at least NAPFA (SILVER), you will enlist later as compared to the PTP batch and undergo just 9 weeks of BMT.

Standard batch doesn't go for SIT TEST (SITUATIONAL TEST) the 3d/2n field camp that you go thru to determine your ability to lead, only for leadership batch.

There are a few combinations:
PTP STANDARD: Unlikely to go command school, 8 weeks of PTP follow by 9 weeks of BMT
PTP LEADERSHIP: Highly likely to go command school, 8 weeks of PTP follow by 9 weeks of BMT
ENHANCED STANDARD: Unlikely to go command school, 9 weeks of BMT
ENHANCED LEADERSHIP: High likely to go command school, 9 weeks of BMT

The above only true for PES A/B

Modified BMT: 7 weeks only, for PES C
You will still go through about the same shit as your PES A/B counterparts just that your training will be modified like shorter field camp, no IPPT (PES C1 needs IPPT), shorter route marches, no SOC. etc

The criteria for you to pass bmt is you pass 2 out of the 3 criteria:
IPPT
FIELD CAMP
RANGE

Route marches is not a must to pass BMT.

Attendances play a big part too.

[cybotmaster]

I get what you guys mean.. My education level will be an 'A' Level cert by the time I enlist. This is my 'A' Levels year, going to take the exams soon.

[penguin1]

Originally Posted by reddevil0728

Eh I think you got it wrong.
You compare STANDARD VS LEADERSHIP:
Standard batch means you are highly unlikely to get into command school
Leadership batch means you got high chance to get into command school

PTP VS ENHANCED:
PTP (PHYSICAL TRAINING PHASE): For those who didn't manage to get at least a NAPFA (SILVER), you will enlist earlier and undergo 8 weeks of physical training to build up your physical fitness and thereafter follow by 9 weeks of BMT.
ENHANCED: For those who get at least NAPFA (SILVER), you will enlist later as compared to the PTP batch and undergo just 9 weeks of BMT.

Standard batch doesn't go for SIT TEST (SITUATIONAL TEST) the 3d/2n field camp that you go thru to determine your ability to lead, only for leadership batch.

There are a few combinations:
PTP STANDARD: Unlikely to go command school, 8 weeks of PTP follow by 9 weeks of BMT
PTP LEADERSHIP: Highly likely to go command school, 8 weeks of PTP follow by 9 weeks of BMT
ENHANCED STANDARD: Unlikely to go command school, 9 weeks of BMT
ENHANCED LEADERSHIP: High likely to go command school, 9 weeks of BMT
The above only true for PES A/B

Modified BMT: 7 weeks only, for PES C
You will still go through about the same shit as your PES A/B counterparts just that your training will be modified like shorter field camp, no IPPT (PES C1 needs IPPT), shorter route marches, no SOC. etc

The criteria for you to pass bmt is you pass 2 out of the 3 criteria:
IPPT
FIELD CAMP
RANGE

Route marches is not a must to pass BMT.

Attendances play a big part too.

hey bro, but how would u know which u got into? will it be printed accordingly on the enlistment date? or..?

[reddevil0728]

Originally Posted by penguin1

hey bro, but how would u know which u got into? will it be printed accordingly on the enlistment date? or..?

You will know whether you go ENHANCED or PTP cause if you get at least silver for NAPFA you sure enhanced. leadership or standard, you will know when u enlist. if you leadership ur commanders will psycho you to say interested in command sch

[yeeth]

Originally Posted by penguin1

hey bro, but how would u know which u got into? will it be printed accordingly on the enlistment date? or..?

haha actually when u go in u will know the lingo v fast. Now you learn also too late to change anything for better or worse anw =D

[telefone]

Originally Posted by reddevil0728

Btw only leadership batch can go command school. Standard batch very very very low chance

What is leadership batch? OCS and SISPEC should have intake 4 times a year, same time as the 4 times BMTC intake a year. I've never heard of standard batch w/o SIT test. I don't believe on the existence of standard batch, tell me more about it.

[reddevil0728]

Originally Posted by telefone

What is leadership batch? OCS and SISPEC should have intake 4 times a year, same time as the 4 times BMTC intake a year. I've never heard of standard batch w/o SIT test. I don't believe on the existence of standard batch, tell me more about it.

Actually my "batch" was used interchangably with "coy" to make it simpler for people who enlist to understand.

There are 4 batches with 4 command school intake. Yea.

Then every batches there are many coys in take. some coys standard batch meaning no chance of limited chance of command school cause they don't go for SIT test. while some coys hv leadership intake with chance of command school and they go for sit test

[telefone]

Hmm, really? I tot all coys went for SIT test... I can't remember my SISPEC / OCS coy where they from in BMT already....

[reddevil0728]

Originally Posted by telefone

Hmm, really? I tot all coys went for SIT test... I can't remember my SISPEC / OCS coy where they from in BMT already....

No. standard batch don't go for SIT test. standard batch usually make up of those people without diploma or A levels.