Switch to Linear ModeSwitch to Hybrid ModeSwitch to Threaded Mode
Printer Friendly View | Email this page | Register Now to enjoy user benefits!
mrblackman Guest
Posts: n/a
Trade rep: %
Wireless router. mrblackman May 1st, 07, 12:59 PM #1 (permalink)
Hey guys, ATM Im running my pc's with a normal router using lan cables, my father wants to have wireless for hes laptop because he hates always needing to be near a phone jack. Anyway, I wonting to get a wireless router, my concerns are, can it transfer the full bandwith that a lan cable can do . Like, will i notice much difference using wireless rather than lan cables in speed. Also, stability, is wireless hve good stability? I have no cancrete walls just wood. I live in a small 2 bedrrom house.

thanks.
 
onionaut
onionaut's Avatar
Model M User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Yishun
Posts: 1,901
Trade rep: 100%
onionaut May 1st, 07, 02:31 PM #2 (permalink)
wireless router can use both wired and wireless.

((( Run LewisTan Run! )))

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Processor: C2D E8400
Motherboard: DFI LP DK P35
Memory:Crucial Ballistix Tracers 4GB Kit
Graphics: Powercolor3870X2
Storage: 500GB x 2 | 250GB x 2

Power: Corsair HX620W
Sound: AegoM + Firestone Fubar III | ESI neAr 05 eXperience
Keyboard: IBM Model M Buckling Spring!

Mouse: Razer Copperhead Green
Enclosure: Lancool K7 Metalbone


└────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
i still remember those glory days
where no one dared to get in our ways
it only seems like yesterday
seeing boots and braces all the way


 
trouble-o-lot
trouble-o-lot's Avatar
No Longer Exclusive...
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North-west of SG
Posts: 901
Trade rep: 0%
trouble-o-lot May 1st, 07, 02:51 PM #3 (permalink)
The maximum speed a wireless system can go currently is 54Mbps. The latest IEEE 802.11 Draft-N can help increase ur bandwidth up further more twice of Wireless-A/B/G flavours. I cannot assure u that wireless is very stable. The further u r from the router, the slower and weaker the connection is. Draft-N is able to solve this problem later.

It would be best for u to place a wireless router in an area where a max. transmission is possible for ur whole house.

LAN cable provides full 100Mbps at all times. For wireless, it will provide full bandwidth if transmission is high, otherwise runs at low speed to save power (mostly for laptops).
RIG 1:
Intel C2D E6550 l ASUS P5K-SE l 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2-667 l LeadTek GF8800GTS 320MB l WD 320GB SATA l Samsung DVD-RW SATA l RealTek High Definition Audio l CM690 l Verudium Vortex HE 530W l Windows XP Pro SP3
Mobile Specs:
IBM T43 l Pentium M 740 (1.73GHz) l 1.3GB DDR2-533 l 60GB PATA HDD 4200rpm l Intel GMA 900 l 14.1" LCD l 24x DVD/CD-RW l Windows XP Pro SP3
 
&d00
&d00's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Singapore
Posts: 3,374
Trade rep: 92%
&d00 May 1st, 07, 06:59 PM #4 (permalink)
the maximum thoroughput you will get with MIMO/draft-n solutions is about 30mbits/second.

with wireless G you can get 10-20mbits/second. these are all based on good signal conditions.

anyway, you won't notice any difference in speed unless your internet plan is above 30mbps.
Networking: Thomson ST536v6, AEBS N Gigabit, WRT54GL
Portables: MacBook Unibody 2.4GHz
 
&d00
&d00's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Singapore
Posts: 3,374
Trade rep: 92%
&d00 May 1st, 07, 07:05 PM #5 (permalink)
wireless routers are rock stable EXCEPT CERTAIN MODELS FROM CERTAIN BRANDS.

some rock solid routers i recommend:
- Buffalo WHR-HP-54 (wireless G, EXCELLENT range)
- Buffalo WHR-G54s (wireless G)
- Buffalo WZR-G300N (wireless draft-n)
- D-Link DIR-655 (wireless draft-n)
- D-Link gaming routers (good performance with QoS options)

some routers to AVOID AT ALL COSTS:
- Linksys routers (many many firmware bugs, cannot handle P2P well, some models have overheating problems)
- Aztech (lousy QC, flimsy routers that look ugly anyway)
- Belkin (some models have heat problems)
- Netgear (some models have heat problems)
- 2Wire (heat, low performance)
- SMC (lots of heat problems)
Networking: Thomson ST536v6, AEBS N Gigabit, WRT54GL
Portables: MacBook Unibody 2.4GHz
 
welcomb Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 322
Trade rep: 0%
welcomb May 1st, 07, 10:52 PM #6 (permalink)
Salespersons like to quote the maximum theoretical throughput of wireless technology. Of course factors like distance and signaling power can be computed generally but one factor people forget is interference.

Don't forget that "wireless" medium is shared among everyone who's using the same wireless channel, regardless of actual network visibility. With everyone around you going wireless at home, just imagine how congested the air waves are going to get. And putting out 100% power to get better signal doesn't help as it increases the range of interference too.

Just something you should take into consideration whether to go wireless or wired.
 
mrblackman Guest
Posts: n/a
Trade rep: %
mrblackman May 2nd, 07, 10:21 AM #7 (permalink)
I have 1 laptop (my dads) and my pc. Thats all the wireles internet i will use.

You guys think that would be suitible for one off the good wireless's

Quote:
some rock solid routers i recommend:
- Buffalo WHR-HP-54 (wireless G, EXCELLENT range)
- Buffalo WHR-G54s (wireless G)
- Buffalo WZR-G300N (wireless draft-n)
- D-Link DIR-655 (wireless draft-n)
- D-Link gaming routers (good performance with QoS options)
 
welcomb Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 322
Trade rep: 0%
welcomb May 2nd, 07, 12:13 PM #8 (permalink)
yah the routers &d00 recommended are good enough. Just choose one according to your liking and budget.

I can feel the speed difference when using wireless at home compared to a wire connection, especially so when downloading a file or streaming video during peak periods. A simple check reveals about 5 other networks with their SSID broadcast. Didn't really bother sniffing for those not broadcasting but already sometimes can feel the delay.

But if you're not a heavy downloader or streamer, it's sufficient for normal use.
 
FoxTwo
FoxTwo's Avatar
Clanless and guildless
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Singapore
Posts: 480
Trade rep: 0%
FoxTwo May 2nd, 07, 12:28 PM #9 (permalink)
Quote:
Originally Posted by &d00
some routers to AVOID AT ALL COSTS:
- Linksys routers (many many firmware bugs, cannot handle P2P well, some models have overheating problems)
- Aztech (lousy QC, flimsy routers that look ugly anyway)
- Belkin (some models have heat problems)
- Netgear (some models have heat problems)
- 2Wire (heat, low performance)
- SMC (lots of heat problems)
Hmm I just would like to say I have had ZERO problems with my Netgear WGR-614..... in fact my opinion is that Netgear is one of the better ones... perhaps you may have had bad experiences with those brands before, or I might be very very lucky to have a unit that is trouble-free.

 
&d00
&d00's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Singapore
Posts: 3,374
Trade rep: 92%
&d00 May 2nd, 07, 07:49 PM #10 (permalink)
MOST netgear routers of yore aren't good and overheat.

so i just recommended getting a better brand rather than filter out what is good
Networking: Thomson ST536v6, AEBS N Gigabit, WRT54GL
Portables: MacBook Unibody 2.4GHz
 
&d00
&d00's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Singapore
Posts: 3,374
Trade rep: 92%
&d00 May 6th, 07, 02:18 PM #11 (permalink)
Wireless Routers: The Good, The Bad, the Ugly..
Networking: Thomson ST536v6, AEBS N Gigabit, WRT54GL
Portables: MacBook Unibody 2.4GHz
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Find the best hotel rates here:
Destination:

City:

Check in Date:


Nights:
Rooms:
Adult(s):
Children:
travel.vr-zone.com
OCZ Fan Club!
OCZ Fan Club 21 OCZ Fans!
Win Visa GiftCard
Win Visa Gift Card