P2P throttling might be illegal

Chrisat · Oct 2nd, 09, 02:38 PM

I was discussing with some friends about local connection speed and it was mentioned that local ISP does not appear to have any guidelines with regards to what they can do about bandwidth throttling or traffic shaping.

Naturally it's not possible for ISP not to throttle excessive bandwidth usage especially for those heavy P2P users, but what is reasonable and what isn't?

What do you feel is acceptable or unacceptable throttling/shaping policies?

lennardseah · Oct 2nd, 09, 02:44 PM

Starhub - http://www.starhub.com/support/broad...anagement.html

|ce · Oct 2nd, 09, 02:51 PM

Throttle means what ? Giving me full speed ah ?

Chrisat · Oct 2nd, 09, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lennardseah

Starhub - StarHub- Support - Broadband - Facts - Network Management

Nice to see that Starhub does have a clear statement on how they implement traffic management. Unfortunately, the other major ISP SingNet does not appear to have a similar page, or does anybody know where it might be?

Chrisat · Oct 2nd, 09, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by |ce

Throttle means what ? Giving me full speed ah ?

It means to reduce your maximum speed.

|ce · Oct 2nd, 09, 03:23 PM

Argh ... Why reduce my maximum speed ? I paying every month leh ... Hmph!~

They should reduce the maximum speed for 1MBPS and give me my maximum speed of 100MBPS ...

DragonFire · Oct 2nd, 09, 04:07 PM

I wonder where GRE traffic sits

DF

|ce · Oct 2nd, 09, 04:21 PM

GRE is wot ?

liangtam · Oct 2nd, 09, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisat

Nice to see that Starhub does have a clear statement on how they implement traffic management. Unfortunately, the other major ISP SingNet does not appear to have a similar page, or does anybody know where it might be?

Its here

Chrisat · Oct 2nd, 09, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by liangtam

Its here

Thanks for pointing it out

Looks like both major ISP will only throttle by protocol.

Would it be acceptable if this changes in the future to a blanket throttle on the entire connection when the faster networks become available and direct downloads or streaming from Voice/Video services become increasingly heavier?

Dreamslacker · Oct 3rd, 09, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by |ce

GRE is wot ?

Generic Routing Encapsulation. Something used for tunneling.

|ce · Oct 3rd, 09, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamslacker

Generic Routing Encapsulation. Something used for tunneling.

What has tunneling gotta do with bandwidth ?

lennardseah · Oct 3rd, 09, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by |ce

What has tunneling gotta do with bandwidth ?

once its tunneled the throttler cannot identify the type of packet

Chrisat · Oct 3rd, 09, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lennardseah

once its tunneled the throttler cannot identify the type of packet

This is why I believe eventually the ISPs will throttle heavy users by their accounts regardless of the type of traffic. Heavy users will therefore get less speed even if they paid for a higher bandwidth account.

|ce · Oct 3rd, 09, 05:52 PM

Actually I don't really bother if they throttle my traffic or not ... If they don't throttle my traffic, my HDD is going get too full and I might find myself buying bigger and bigger HDDs to store more and more stuff since there is zero throttling ...

However, if they throttle ... my HDDs get full but not too frequent hence I get breathing space to save money and buy bigger HDDs

Imagine they donch throttle ... then one night I sleep , wake up ... my 500GB HDD full liao ... Its a disaster leh ... Everyday do nothing but spend money upgrading HDDs