[Phyxion]

The 9600 is due to hit store shelves next week. Let's take a first look and find out if this card is any good.

The hype surrounding the new 9 Series of graphics cards from NVIDIA hasn’t seemed to have been as big as previous generation releases. The biggest reason for this seems to be that there have been so many graphics cards released over the past few months that this just seems like another one of them.

More here.

[Niceone]

So Tweaktowns test says that Geforce 9600 GT 512 beats HD3870 in games!
GF 9600 GT wins 5 tests (including both AA game tests)
HD3870 wins 3 tests
Three tests ended on tie

Mostly pretty close ones, but GF 9600 GT have few remarkable victories (Well both are close to the barrier of "playable" and GF 9600 GT pulls 5fps difference..for example).

Their sound test is worthless. They admit that in paper that 9600 GT sound level is horrifying, but they really can't tell much of a difference them selfs. Perhaps they shouldn't measure sound levels 2cm from that card..how many of us plays games 2cm from their graphics card?
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On those tests month ago Geforce 9600 GT had hard time against HD3850 256MB, but perhaps it was due to immature drivers.

[Lucifiel]

Originally Posted by Niceone

Perhaps they shouldn't measure sound levels 2cm from that card..how many of us plays games 2cm from their graphics card?

You mean they plaster their graphics card next to their ears, like how those blacks used to do in the 80s? With the gigantic boombox?

[Niceone]

Originally Posted by Lucifiel

You mean they plaster their graphics card next to their ears, like how those blacks used to do in the 80s? With the gigantic boombox?

Yea!

Problem also is that these test sites use open test rigs to save time when swapping different cards in. This doesn't necessary tell us truth what will be noise level in real life (nor heat levels)

[Lucifiel]

Originally Posted by Niceone

Yea!

Problem also is that these test sites use open test rigs to save time when swapping different cards in. This doesn't necessary tell us truth what will be noise level in real life (nor heat levels)

Wah lau... like anyone sits that close to a computer. Most people minimum is about 5 to 10 cm lahz.

Yeah... depending on the distance of the computer and other factors like cooling, environmental noise, etc. the sound might actually be okay lahz.

[ptr1aa]

We can't trust tweaktown they always come first with this reviews 8800GT they where first now 9600GT and NDA or Nvidia doesn't do anything to them because they go ahead of the time it's like they put them to do that review.
They carefully test heavy games like crysis in windows vista knowing that 90% of people game on xp maybe even more and at least if they test in vista use the dx10 features like very high in crysis and in world in conflict whatever that make's it better on vista but NOOO they use medium quality in crysis and they tested Half-Life 2 in windows vista like it has some DX10 features i don't see the point in doing tests like this unless they are paid tests.In raw power HD3870 clearly wins against 9600GT if tested in windows XP even crysis why testing in windows vista in medium quality whyyyy ? it is known ati has bad driver support for vista they don't even work too hard in making life better for vista owners they said it themselves (amd/ati someone in an interview) because few people use and game on that os like games that never come from consoles to pc because of the low demand.
Another thing that bugs me with tweaktown is that i really don;t trust them when they say they used catalyst 8.1 for ATI or latest driver knowing that they handpick games and conditions to better suit Nvidia i hardly trust them when they say they are using latest drivers and i can't trust even the numbers on the graphs.
This are my thoughts about reviews like the one on tweaktown and mostly the ones that come very early they look and sound like they are paid and i won't be shocked when they put a banner advertising some 9600GT from MSI or gainward or some nvidia based products.
Like www.fudzilla.com they advertised gainward a lot of time on they'r site and what kiss ass reviews they did for gainward was unbelievable.
Don't trust them people most of them lie , this hardware websites are most of them corupt to they'r bones , for nvidia or ati to give them 10.000-100.000 for a good review and some advertising it's like change money for them they could buy like 10 little websites like tweaktown and praise they'r products all day remember Nvidia is worth 13 bilion dollars and AMD is in deep shit now so no shock that all the internet praise how good nvidia products are and they all test them in vista and favouring nvidia products on all fronts.Well it's not always that they have a better product some times it's because THEY PAY BETTER THAN ATI FOR A REVIEW DISGUISED IN A BANNER.

[Niceone]

If they really would be trying to make 9600 GT to look great they would have more AA tests. Besides those earlier few tests already did give this kind of results..it's not like these scores wouldn't be consistent.

[G|an]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

We can't trust tweaktown they always come first with this reviews 8800GT they where first now 9600GT and NDA or Nvidia doesn't do anything to them because they go ahead of the time it's like they put them to do that review.
They carefully test heavy games like crysis in windows vista knowing that 90% of people game on xp maybe even more and at least if they test in vista use the dx10 features like very high in crysis and in world in conflict whatever that make's it better on vista but NOOO they use medium quality in crysis and they tested Half-Life 2 in windows vista like it has some DX10 features i don't see the point in doing tests like this unless they are paid tests.In raw power HD3870 clearly wins against 9600GT if tested in windows XP even crysis why testing in windows vista in medium quality whyyyy ? it is known ati has bad driver support for vista they don't even work too hard in making life better for vista owners they said it themselves (amd/ati someone in an interview) because few people use and game on that os like games that never come from consoles to pc because of the low demand.
Another thing that bugs me with tweaktown is that i really don;t trust them when they say they used catalyst 8.1 for ATI or latest driver knowing that they handpick games and conditions to better suit Nvidia i hardly trust them when they say they are using latest drivers and i can't trust even the numbers on the graphs.
This are my thoughts about reviews like the one on tweaktown and mostly the ones that come very early they look and sound like they are paid and i won't be shocked when they put a banner advertising some 9600GT from MSI or gainward or some nvidia based products.
Like www.fudzilla.com they advertised gainward a lot of time on they'r site and what kiss ass reviews they did for gainward was unbelievable.
Don't trust them people most of them lie , this hardware websites are most of them corupt to they'r bones , for nvidia or ati to give them 10.000-100.000 for a good review and some advertising it's like change money for them they could buy like 10 little websites like tweaktown and praise they'r products all day remember Nvidia is worth 13 bilion dollars and AMD is in deep shit now so no shock that all the internet praise how good nvidia products are and they all test them in vista and favouring nvidia products on all fronts.Well it's not always that they have a better product some times it's because THEY PAY BETTER THAN ATI FOR A REVIEW DISGUISED IN A BANNER.

its called payola friend

[Ish718]

Price?

[m4dn355]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

We can't trust tweaktown they always come first with this reviews 8800GT they where first now 9600GT and NDA or Nvidia doesn't do anything to them because they go ahead of the time it's like they put them to do that review.
They carefully test heavy games like crysis in windows vista knowing that 90% of people game on xp maybe even more and at least if they test in vista use the dx10 features like very high in crysis and in world in conflict whatever that make's it better on vista but NOOO they use medium quality in crysis and they tested Half-Life 2 in windows vista like it has some DX10 features i don't see the point in doing tests like this unless they are paid tests.In raw power HD3870 clearly wins against 9600GT if tested in windows XP even crysis why testing in windows vista in medium quality whyyyy ? it is known ati has bad driver support for vista they don't even work too hard in making life better for vista owners they said it themselves (amd/ati someone in an interview) because few people use and game on that os like games that never come from consoles to pc because of the low demand.
Another thing that bugs me with tweaktown is that i really don;t trust them when they say they used catalyst 8.1 for ATI or latest driver knowing that they handpick games and conditions to better suit Nvidia i hardly trust them when they say they are using latest drivers and i can't trust even the numbers on the graphs.
This are my thoughts about reviews like the one on tweaktown and mostly the ones that come very early they look and sound like they are paid and i won't be shocked when they put a banner advertising some 9600GT from MSI or gainward or some nvidia based products.
Like www.fudzilla.com they advertised gainward a lot of time on they'r site and what kiss ass reviews they did for gainward was unbelievable.
Don't trust them people most of them lie , this hardware websites are most of them corupt to they'r bones , for nvidia or ati to give them 10.000-100.000 for a good review and some advertising it's like change money for them they could buy like 10 little websites like tweaktown and praise they'r products all day remember Nvidia is worth 13 bilion dollars and AMD is in deep shit now so no shock that all the internet praise how good nvidia products are and they all test them in vista and favouring nvidia products on all fronts.Well it's not always that they have a better product some times it's because THEY PAY BETTER THAN ATI FOR A REVIEW DISGUISED IN A BANNER.

I agree with you man those numbers are fake, come on we all know that 3870 is more powerful than 9600GT. TweakTown is nVidia's promoting site. For the corrupted people who wrote the review

[Niceone]

Well there are now two reviews saying that 9600 GT is more powerful than HD 3870 and one saying that it's pretty close. Is Tweaktown nVidia's promoting site..how come?

[m4dn355]

Originally Posted by Niceone

Well there are now two reviews saying that 9600 GT is more powerful than HD 3870 and one saying that it's pretty close. Is Tweaktown nVidia's promoting site..how come?

Well, they are always pushing up nVidia even if it isn't better than competitor.

[Nashaz]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

We can't trust tweaktown they always come first with this reviews 8800GT they where first now 9600GT and NDA or Nvidia doesn't do anything to them because they go ahead of the time it's like they put them to do that review.
They carefully test heavy games like crysis in windows vista knowing that 90% of people game on xp maybe even more and at least if they test in vista use the dx10 features like very high in crysis and in world in conflict whatever that make's it better on vista but NOOO they use medium quality in crysis and they tested Half-Life 2 in windows vista like it has some DX10 features i don't see the point in doing tests like this unless they are paid tests.In raw power HD3870 clearly wins against 9600GT if tested in windows XP even crysis why testing in windows vista in medium quality whyyyy ? it is known ati has bad driver support for vista they don't even work too hard in making life better for vista owners they said it themselves (amd/ati someone in an interview) because few people use and game on that os like games that never come from consoles to pc because of the low demand.
Another thing that bugs me with tweaktown is that i really don;t trust them when they say they used catalyst 8.1 for ATI or latest driver knowing that they handpick games and conditions to better suit Nvidia i hardly trust them when they say they are using latest drivers and i can't trust even the numbers on the graphs.
This are my thoughts about reviews like the one on tweaktown and mostly the ones that come very early they look and sound like they are paid and i won't be shocked when they put a banner advertising some 9600GT from MSI or gainward or some nvidia based products.
Like www.fudzilla.com they advertised gainward a lot of time on they'r site and what kiss ass reviews they did for gainward was unbelievable.
Don't trust them people most of them lie , this hardware websites are most of them corupt to they'r bones , for nvidia or ati to give them 10.000-100.000 for a good review and some advertising it's like change money for them they could buy like 10 little websites like tweaktown and praise they'r products all day remember Nvidia is worth 13 bilion dollars and AMD is in deep shit now so no shock that all the internet praise how good nvidia products are and they all test them in vista and favouring nvidia products on all fronts.Well it's not always that they have a better product some times it's because THEY PAY BETTER THAN ATI FOR A REVIEW DISGUISED IN A BANNER.

Fan boy spotted?...

anyway, nvidia hasn disapointed us as much as ati recently... so y is this report so unbelievable?.... if u dont favour nvidia, then take this report with a pinch of salt and go along resuming your daily life... y pick at every little detail there is?...

[Niceone]

Originally Posted by m4dn355

Well, they are always pushing up nVidia even if it isn't better than competitor.

Like the time when HD2900 XT won 8800 GTS 640MB with initial drivers (with initial drivers it lost..but later drivers..)

Like when they gave 8800 GT a 90% overall score and HD 3870 91% score?

Like when they praised HD2600 cards over 8600 cards

etc.

[kenny_naboo]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

We can't trust tweaktown they always come first with this reviews 8800GT they where first now 9600GT and NDA or Nvidia doesn't do anything to them because they go ahead of the time it's like they put them to do that review.
They carefully test heavy games like crysis in windows vista knowing that 90% of people game on xp maybe even more and at least if they test in vista use the dx10 features like very high in crysis and in world in conflict whatever that make's it better on vista but NOOO they use medium quality in crysis and they tested Half-Life 2 in windows vista like it has some DX10 features i don't see the point in doing tests like this unless they are paid tests.In raw power HD3870 clearly wins against 9600GT if tested in windows XP even crysis why testing in windows vista in medium quality whyyyy ? it is known ati has bad driver support for vista they don't even work too hard in making life better for vista owners they said it themselves (amd/ati someone in an interview) because few people use and game on that os like games that never come from consoles to pc because of the low demand.
Another thing that bugs me with tweaktown is that i really don;t trust them when they say they used catalyst 8.1 for ATI or latest driver knowing that they handpick games and conditions to better suit Nvidia i hardly trust them when they say they are using latest drivers and i can't trust even the numbers on the graphs.
This are my thoughts about reviews like the one on tweaktown and mostly the ones that come very early they look and sound like they are paid and i won't be shocked when they put a banner advertising some 9600GT from MSI or gainward or some nvidia based products.
Like www.fudzilla.com they advertised gainward a lot of time on they'r site and what kiss ass reviews they did for gainward was unbelievable.
Don't trust them people most of them lie , this hardware websites are most of them corupt to they'r bones , for nvidia or ati to give them 10.000-100.000 for a good review and some advertising it's like change money for them they could buy like 10 little websites like tweaktown and praise they'r products all day remember Nvidia is worth 13 bilion dollars and AMD is in deep shit now so no shock that all the internet praise how good nvidia products are and they all test them in vista and favouring nvidia products on all fronts.Well it's not always that they have a better product some times it's because THEY PAY BETTER THAN ATI FOR A REVIEW DISGUISED IN A BANNER.

What you really need to do is bloody paragraph your posts properly so it becomes more legible. The hell of it is that you gave me vertigo after the third line.