[VRNews]

While Nvidia and a few other reporters (most notably, Fudzilla) claim Fermi based products are well on their way, a host of other reporters are now claiming Nvidia is "doing their best" to have a working Fermi demonstration at CES 2010, which is scheduled for 7th to 10th November. Nvidia's original release date was apparently set for late November, but recently Fudzilla reported that this date was shifted to December. Meanwhile, most other sources claimed retail availability of Fermi would only happen in Q1 2010. More details next page.


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[Megalord]

Gosh, yet another spectaculation on the launch date... They are slowly getting busted anyway. Its already nov, so those rumours regarding nov launch are getting busted soon. Next in line would be those that stood by dec launch...

[Mario26JT]

Originally Posted by Megalord

Gosh, yet another spectaculation on the launch date... They are slowly getting busted anyway. Its already nov, so those rumours regarding nov launch are getting busted soon. Next in line would be those that stood by dec launch...

You are very negative and wrong.
Im sceptical about november,but come december Nv will launch Fermi,maybe at small quantities,but launch.And while ati 5xxx series badly available,it will be good time for Nv to launch,coz ati didnt get that big advantage they wish

[jason1980]

i thought fermi was demonstrated already?

So was the first demo a hoax?

[Megalord]

Originally Posted by Mario26JT

You are very negative and wrong.
Im sceptical about november,but come december Nv will launch Fermi,maybe at small quantities,but launch.And while ati 5xxx series badly available,it will be good time for Nv to launch,coz ati didnt get that big advantage they wish

Hello? I am not being negative but realistic. Haven't you got tired of the numerous rumours flying all around regarding the fermi launch date? Its no doubt that more and more rumours are getting crushed as each day goes by. Or do you mean, by killing and crushing rumours, we are deemed negative?

And what are you to say that i am wrong? On what ground? How do you know, for sure, that fermi is gonna launch in december? Unless you have concrete proof that fermi is gonna launch in december, you are just spectaculating. And if you are spectaculating, you have no rights to claim others are wrong. But the term "sceptical" you used instantly tells all that you are spectaculating. Okie, maybe with a crystal to make it more "concrete" ya?

[ptr1aa]

I really don't understand why Nvidia can't launch something , take the very good GTX285 , make it 40 nm and add twice de number of shaders , that's your 5870 killer , WTF is the problem ?
From what i know ( i maybe wrong ) Nvidia didn't do much to make 40 nm a reality , they talked much but didn't made the 40 nm real , on the other hand AMD/ATI made the 40nm a reality and fast , it's their merit (AMD) and it's the only explanation why Fermi doesn't come out ( i mabe be wrong ) , they probably have a door slammed in their face when they go asking for working chips .

[watzup_ken]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

I really don't understand why Nvidia can't launch something , take the very good GTX285 , make it 40 nm and add twice de number of shaders , that's your 5870 killer , WTF is the problem ?
From what i know ( i maybe wrong ) Nvidia didn't do much to make 40 nm a reality , they talked much but didn't made the 40 nm real , on the other hand AMD/ATI made the 40nm a reality and fast , it's their merit (AMD) and it's the only explanation why Fermi doesn't come out ( i mabe be wrong ) , they probably have a door slammed in their face when they go asking for working chips .

You made it sound like its really easy pal. I mean if they really are not having an probs getting their chip out, I don't think they would like to wait for AMD to make loads of profit on their DX11 parts before they release their own card right? A die shrink even on the same chip may take a fair bit of time, not to mention Fermi itself is a much more complex chip as compared to the current GTX285. Especially when HD58xx series is already a hit and a good performer, they may have to further tweak it to make their card even faster.

[ptr1aa]

I gave a possible scenario why Fermi doesn't come out , read the whole post.
And how do you know Fermi is so complex ? is it from the paper launch ? , oh yeah , now i know how you know.
On paper even the GT200 sounded very complex , let's see it out and the developers criticizing how it's nothing more than a GTX285 X 2 with some cache , remember the GT200 was just that , Nvidia sayd it's not just that , it's more , developers disagreed.

[Mario26JT]

Originally Posted by Megalord

Hello? I am not being negative but realistic. Haven't you got tired of the numerous rumours flying all around regarding the fermi launch date? Its no doubt that more and more rumours are getting crushed as each day goes by. Or do you mean, by killing and crushing rumours, we are deemed negative?

And what are you to say that i am wrong? On what ground? How do you know, for sure, that fermi is gonna launch in december? Unless you have concrete proof that fermi is gonna launch in december, you are just spectaculating. And if you are spectaculating, you have no rights to claim others are wrong. But the term "sceptical" you used instantly tells all that you are spectaculating. Okie, maybe with a crystal to make it more "concrete" ya?

Same you - how can you say they going to launch later than sooner?Crystal ball???
No,im not tired of rumours,coz i actualy like all IT news,thats why im here.And to be fair,rumours about Fermi far from hype about ati 5xxx series,so its nothing strange people talking,coz its suppose to be something new,not shrinked ati 4xxx series aka 5xxx.
And you looking for SOMETHING between others words to much my friend
And i have rights to claim someone wrong or not - like everybody else,its free word in internet,isnt??So calm down,look at your crystall bottle or whatever (coz you talking about that every time,looks like its very important to you Nostradamus)

[Teemax]

Originally Posted by Mario26JT

Same you - how can you say they going to launch later than sooner?Crystal ball???
No,im not tired of rumours,coz i actualy like all IT news,thats why im here.And to be fair,rumours about Fermi far from hype about ati 5xxx series,so its nothing strange people talking,coz its suppose to be something new,not shrinked ati 4xxx series aka 5xxx.
And you looking for SOMETHING between others words to much my friend
And i have rights to claim someone wrong or not - like everybody else,its free word in internet,isnt??So calm down,look at your crystall bottle or whatever (coz you talking about that every time,looks like its very important to you Nostradamus)

I can't speak for others, but for myself, I follow Fermi's "development" (or lack thereof) quite closely because I have a bad feeling that NVIDIA will screw up badly.

If NVIDIA loses this DX 11 round, it will pretty much be in the same position of AMD when Intel launched Core 2. And we would expect prices to go up, as it already did with HD 5850.


PS: You seem to have an usually strong personal attachment to NVIDIA. Might I ask why?

[ptr1aa]

Mario is a hardcore Nvidia fan , they probably feed him.
Now onto the Fermi deal , it's strange for most people that they didn't seen anything about the card , not even the card.
If we look in the past we see some news followed by some benches followed by some lying slides how good they are , Nvidia didn't do anything with Fermi , no performance charts , no actual card ( mock up doesn't count ) , mysterious rumors and most of them are how they won't make it.
It's clear we won't see any Fermi to soon , it's an honest conclusion for tech websites who watch this kind of news and some of them know from Nvidia directly when they will get a card to test it , nothing from no one until now.

[hwmook]

Originally Posted by ptr1aa

I really don't understand why Nvidia can't launch something , take the very good GTX285 , make it 40 nm and add twice de number of shaders , that's your 5870 killer , WTF is the problem ?
From what i know ( i maybe wrong ) Nvidia didn't do much to make 40 nm a reality , they talked much but didn't made the 40 nm real , on the other hand AMD/ATI made the 40nm a reality and fast , it's their merit (AMD) and it's the only explanation why Fermi doesn't come out ( i mabe be wrong ) , they probably have a door slammed in their face when they go asking for working chips .

Actually Nvidia has a whole plan to make all their products migrate to 40nm before release of Fermi but they fail to deliver on that and cancel all the products leaving only GT220. Maybe their original plan was to deliver the Fermi at the same time as ATI/AMD RV870 but somehow they fail thus accounting for the short supply of GTX2xx cards for sale.

At the same time, did anybody ever heard about the full range of product from nvidia? It seem that there is only 1 card coming from nvidia......By the time nvidia come out with Fermi, ATI would have the whole market covered from top to bottom with their DX11 cards.

I think nvidia is going to suffer for 2010.

[hwmook]

Originally Posted by Teemax

I can't speak for others, but for myself, I follow Fermi's "development" (or lack thereof) quite closely because I have a bad feeling that NVIDIA will screw up badly.

If NVIDIA loses this DX 11 round, it will pretty much be in the same position of AMD when Intel launched Core 2. And we would expect prices to go up, as it already did with HD 5850.


PS: You seem to have an usually strong personal attachment to NVIDIA. Might I ask why?

Mario26JT is on nvidia's payroll so stop replying to him, he is just a troll.

The price increase of HD5850 is not something ATI/AMD wanted. The price increase of memory is scary thus AMD/ATI incur a lot of additional costs with regards to components so AMD/ATI has to choose some cards with the lowest profit margain to increase the price. Even without Fermi, as long as memory pricing stop going up then AMD/ATI willnot be increasing prices. AMD/ATI is not the same kind of ******* that Nvidia is, trying to sell a GTX280 for USD649. I swear never to buy any Nvidia cards for the ******* way Nvidia is conducting their business.

[depinaf]

Nvidia seems to be having problems developing the card, because they were using GT300 as a way to respond to the AMD 5800 cards. They probably needed more time to for developtment, and instead they decided that it was more important to respond to AMD.

[Teemax]

Originally Posted by hwmook

Mario26JT is on nvidia's payroll so stop replying to him, he is just a troll.

The price increase of HD5850 is not something ATI/AMD wanted. The price increase of memory is scary thus AMD/ATI incur a lot of additional costs with regards to components so AMD/ATI has to choose some cards with the lowest profit margain to increase the price. Even without Fermi, as long as memory pricing stop going up then AMD/ATI willnot be increasing prices. AMD/ATI is not the same kind of ******* that Nvidia is, trying to sell a GTX280 for USD649. I swear never to buy any Nvidia cards for the ******* way Nvidia is conducting their business.

Sure he is a fanboy, but I want to know why he becomes so nevertheless.

As for AMD/ATI's "generosity" or whatever that you want to claim about them:
- AMD charged ridiculous prices for their Athlon x2 when they were King.
- ATI was convicted together with NVIDIA for price fixing (they both kept prices artificially high to screw customers)
- Previous generations of ATI cards were nothing cheap. The only real surprise was the HD 4xxx generations where ATI was desperate to regain market share from the last 2 disasters.

So, please don't give me the honest corporate bull. ATI or NVIDIA will happily screw you over and over given a chance. Competition is the only salvation