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HD 5970 single-card, multi-card and overclocking review Monstru Nov 18th, 09, 06:26 AM #1

HD 5970 vs GTX 295/GTX285/HD5870/HD5850/HD4890 - single card stock & OC test

HD 5970 vs 2 x HD 5970 vs 1/2/3/4 x HD 5870 - multi-card test

HD 5970 - short air-cooling overclocking study from 725/1000 to 1000/1200MHz

Bonus - STALKER: Call Of Pripyat DX11 benchmark results in 2560x1600

All of these can be found in the test bellow.


ATI Radeon HD5970 – Ave Hemlock, morituri te salutant @ lab501 (Google Translator Required).


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psolord Nov 18th, 09, 07:38 AM #2
"This account has been suspended!"

Uh oh did AMD screw you over guys? The NDA is not quite lifted yet.
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psolord Nov 18th, 09, 03:39 PM #3
Oh thank God!

I didn't see a "ATI 5970 reviews" thread, posted from Adrianlee and I was worried!

Thanks Adrianlee!
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shard Nov 18th, 09, 03:59 PM #4
This will be the perfect card to go with a workstation motherboard that does not support SLI or Crossfire.
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Thanks to shard for this useful post! Nov 18th, 09, from heatkiller
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hwmook Nov 18th, 09, 05:05 PM #5
OMG, this card run crysis like a piece of cake. FPS more than double that of HD5870 at high settings.
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Teemax Nov 18th, 09, 06:26 PM #6
I just finished reading AnandTech review.

Some things of note:
- DX 11 might actually offer performance increase together with improved quality over DX 10!! (take a look at the Stalker DX comparison)
- HD 5970 currently offers pretty much the same performance as HD 5850 CF. Personally I'd go for the CF solution if running on a board with 2 x16 pcie (HD 5850 CF can fit in a compact case)
- Finally, we can drop the "Can it run Crysis?" joke. There's a new king who answered your prayer
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shard Nov 18th, 09, 07:23 PM #7
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- Finally, we can drop the "Can it run Crysis?" joke. There's a new king who answered your prayer
Most people considered Crysis to be ahead of its time. So far ahead that it took a couple of years for hardware to catch up and be able to run it in all its glory.

In my opinion, it was just a very badly written and optimized piece of software. There is no other way to explain it.

It is one thing to write software that requires the best of today's hardware to run but it is another thing to create something that took the hardware years to catch up.

Back on topic.

I think the HD 5970 is an amazing card, are there any reviews running 2 of them in Crossfire?
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shard Nov 18th, 09, 07:31 PM #8
Guru3D has a nice Crossfire review of the 5970 starting from page 22 of their full review:

Radeon HD 5970 Single card and Crossfire review

Surprisingly it scales very nicely.

Lastly, I heard there are major shortages for the 5XXX GPUs and stock availability on the market is practically non existent.

Did AMD/ATI pull a "Nvidia" by releasing a really fast GPU but at severely limited quantities just to get a jump on their competition?
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psolord Nov 18th, 09, 08:13 PM #9
The 5970 is a good card, but as far as I am concerned, not the best option. I think it will be best for me to go for a second 5850.

Now what blew my socks off, is the Techpowerup's Crysis Results!

How on earth can the 5970 scale more than 100% of a single 5870? I mean not only the 5970 has lower clocks than a single 5870 but Crysis itself sucks balls when it comes to scaling, so what gives?
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Neo_XF Nov 18th, 09, 08:57 PM #10
Awful awful reviews all around. Inconsistencies all over the place.

Thanks but no thanks, I think I'll wait for some random private forum guy to post his resaults. I had just about enough of this "proffesional" unproffesionalism and small talk.
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power666 Nov 18th, 09, 09:18 PM #11
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Now what blew my socks off, is the Techpowerup's Crysis Results!

How on earth can the 5970 scale more than 100% of a single 5870? I mean not only the 5970 has lower clocks than a single 5870 but Crysis itself sucks balls when it comes to scaling, so what gives?
No idea but this isn't the first Crossfire anomaly for the Radeon 5000 series. Several sites were indicated that two Radeon 5770's were performing better than one single Radeon 5870. Everything was running at the same clock speeds and the Radeon 5870 is literally double the Radeon 5770 in every major area: number of shaders, ROPs, TMU's and memory bandwidth. By all accounts, the two Radeon 5770's should have been slower, much less scaling beyond 100% too!
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Neo_XF Nov 18th, 09, 09:54 PM #12
LOL

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So here is the rub, the new ATI Radeon HD 5970 is fast, the fastest single PCB video card for gaming, no question about that. The problem currently is it is being held back by drivers, software, and the applications themselves. Current drivers are not without problems on the new Radeon HD 5000 series. There are a slew of games that have some kind of issue with this new graphics series from AMD. If it isn’t lack of AA support or poor AA performance then it is just overall slower performance than it should be in games. There are a handful of games now that we have played where we feel performance is not where it should be for this new series, including but not limited to Batman, Resident Evil 5, and Borderlands. Not to be overlooked but all the titles with issues on AMD GPUs are NVIDIA TWIMTBP games. Coincidence?
Conclusion - AMD ATI Radeon HD 5970 Video Card Review | [H]ard|OCP

Well, I don't know if should be thankful that not every review is written by a moron, or just insult Cpt. Obvious...
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psolord Nov 18th, 09, 10:16 PM #13
@Neo_XF

You are right dude. I mean wtf? What are these guys doing? Techpowerup still uses games that are eons old, I mean come on, Prey, Fear 1, Far Cry 1? What the ****?

Anand seemed the best of them all, but why was it so difficult to use two 5870s against a 5970 in all resolutions and all tests? Still, there seems to be a level of boredom for all reviewers. The same went for the 5870 and 5850 reviews.

Truth be told, with the constant driver updates and new games coming, what the heck are these guys supposed to do?
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psolord Nov 18th, 09, 10:30 PM #14
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No idea but this isn't the first Crossfire anomaly for the Radeon 5000 series. Several sites were indicated that two Radeon 5770's were performing better than one single Radeon 5870. Everything was running at the same clock speeds and the Radeon 5870 is literally double the Radeon 5770 in every major area: number of shaders, ROPs, TMU's and memory bandwidth. By all accounts, the two Radeon 5770's should have been slower, much less scaling beyond 100% too!
I am certain now, that the 5000 series is underperforming. Well, at least my 5850 that is. AMD should have been more cautious with their drivers. Read this thread. I have made an interesting post there!

I cannot really understand why single chip cards, underperform like that. I have to admit that I have seen awesome results too, though! In all bad performing cases, the same thing happens. Low gpu usage!
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hwmook Nov 19th, 09, 12:43 AM #15
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LOL


Conclusion - AMD ATI Radeon HD 5970 Video Card Review | [H]ard|OCP

Well, I don't know if should be thankful that not every review is written by a moron, or just insult Cpt. Obvious...
In my book, that is a hardcore Nvidia site which always show favourable results for nvidia cards so for them to come out and state the obvious about nvidia & gang......it probably mean nvidia hasn't been making the monthly payments lately.....
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