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AMD: Phenom II X6 1055T up to 19% faster than Core i7 860 SeniorEditor Apr 27th, 10, 01:16 AM #1

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According to documents from AMD,

Phenom II X6 1055T

at Cinebench 2%
at Pov-Rat 19%
at 3DMark Vantage 1%
at Crysis 1%

faster than Core i7 860
AMD: Phenom II X6 1055T, Core i7 860'dan %19'a varan oranda daha hızlı


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riggnix Apr 27th, 10, 02:32 AM #2
isn't it a bit of unfair to compare quad-core to hexa-core?

and i think 1 percent could also be measurement error?
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bliondi Apr 27th, 10, 02:33 AM #3
this is good news, considering the price of the X6 1055T

but sad that it being a 6 core, it's only marginally faster than a >1 year old architecture (since i7 920) 4 core CPU. and the benchmarks used favours multicore. if used for single threaded application, does the i7 860 take the cake?
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Neo_XF Apr 27th, 10, 03:09 AM #4
bliondi, Phenom II arch is also more than 1 year older, your point? Both are on the market, and won't be going out anytime soon, it's the $$$(/performance) that will concern 99% of the customers (unless they're brainwashed fanboy saps)... don't you agree?


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isn't it a bit of unfair to compare quad-core to hexa-core?

and i think 1 percent could also be measurement error?
How is that relevant? LOL...

If you want to nitpick, i7s also have 8 virtual threads, that often yeld lots of extra performance in such tests. See above.

Also, I think gaming i irrelevant 99% of the time, since games are the last place where I'd search for multi-core awareness... (of which Crysis would be my last choice anyway).


That being said, I can barely call this a benchmark, half a day earlier "leaks" are not really helpful... let's just wait for proper tests, shall we...
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psolord Apr 27th, 10, 03:15 AM #5
So we are going to have reviews of these babys on the 27th?

Hope Adrianlee is in perfect form, heheh!
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depinaf Apr 27th, 10, 04:33 AM #6
In my opinion any improvement by AMD on their processors is a win for the consumer. I would rather have AMD compete with Intel, this way they are forced to maintain their prices lower.
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bliondi Apr 27th, 10, 05:21 AM #7
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bliondi, Phenom II arch is also more than 1 year older, your point? Both are on the market, and won't be going out anytime soon, it's the $$$(/performance) that will concern 99% of the customers (unless they're brainwashed fanboy saps)... don't you agree?
as i said, it's good performance for the dollar

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How is that relevant? LOL...

If you want to nitpick, i7s also have 8 virtual threads, that often yeld lots of extra performance in such tests. See above.

Also, I think gaming i irrelevant 99% of the time, since games are the last place where I'd search for multi-core awareness... (of which Crysis would be my last choice anyway).


That being said, I can barely call this a benchmark, half a day earlier "leaks" are not really helpful... let's just wait for proper tests, shall we...?
to compare 8 logical, 4 physical vs 6 physical cores is a bit skewed. to compare core for core in single threaded applications (which still is in wide use today), won't the i7 be faster?

most games nowadays use up to 3 cores. so in theory a 6 core is only 3 core effective in a game. if per core the X6 is slower, doesn't that mean that i7 still takes the performance crown? esp when are on 5870 x 2 etc where cpu becomes a bottleneck?

however, you could say that at the X6 price point of view it isn't targetted at the top end but more of the 80% general consumer who won't break the bank to buy a 5k rig to play games
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KoKainE Apr 27th, 10, 08:21 AM #8
Also, compares with a LGA1566 socket unit... should have compared with the LGA1366 mah.
Also, 1% margin against the quad.. hurmp pretty insignificant.
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AMD - best price to performance ratio
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Megalord Apr 27th, 10, 09:40 AM #10
I am so glad no one compared the PII 1055T against the i7 980X.

Imho, its price/performance we have to compare, not the number of cores. I don't care if the processor has 1000 cores if it is cheaper and outperforms the competition. If price/performance is not an issue, then look no further than supercomputers. Whats an i7 980X compared to the supercoms when theres unlimited budget as many claim that they have.
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Megalord Apr 27th, 10, 09:50 AM #11
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Also, compares with a LGA1566 socket unit... should have compared with the LGA1366 mah.
Also, 1% margin against the quad.. hurmp pretty insignificant.
Iirc, it was stated in a vast number of articles that the LGA1156 i7 860 has some advantage over the LGA1366 i7 920...

Core i7 860 tested; Faster than Core i7 920 | SITEX 2009 | VR-Zone | Gadgets | PC Enthusiasts

If anyone wants to bring i7 960, 980X, xeon into the picture, be my guest.
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ORiN Apr 27th, 10, 09:51 AM #12
I think it is pretty obvious that AMD is playing a totally different game compared to Intel. In terms of price performance, I think AMD still takes the throne while Intel takes the performance throne.
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LiM Apr 27th, 10, 11:26 AM #13
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isn't it a bit of unfair to compare quad-core to hexa-core?

and i think 1 percent could also be measurement error?
IMO if the price of both cpu is almost the same, it is still a fair match.
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DreamerX Apr 27th, 10, 11:27 AM #14
no AMD, no quad-core that most of you getting today. agree?
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pogsnet Apr 27th, 10, 11:42 AM #15
I think it is not unfair if they are both priced the same. We don't buy by model but by price. It is like choosing two different cars, usually you choose at the same price range, not by model of how many valves they have. And you choose the faster of course.

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