[MinMin]

Spare a thought for cyclists

I WOULD like to comment on two points raised by Mr Jose Raymond Thomas in his letter last Thursday ('Danger cyclists').
Many cyclists who ride without lights are poor, old and unemployed. It costs money to equip a bicycle with a lamp that uses batteries. I have also lost two bicycle lamps before.

Regarding cycling against the traffic, many areas in Singapore have no bicycle lanes so the poor cyclists have to share one lane with cars, buses and huge trucks. Some of these drivers are irresponsible and reckless and, when they overtake a cyclist, the poor cyclist has to swerve, which is quite impossible for the very young and very old. Many cyclists who ride along the road are also forced to do it and are not able to handle their bikes well. Thus, they may get hurt or lose their lives through no fault of theirs.

Andy Leng

http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BFor...ry_319396.html

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[AS1]

how many drivers still follow the 2m rule to overtake cyclists once they get license?

[wyetuck88]

i am both a driver and a avid cyclist...its a give and take situation.

When i am driving...all those comforts; aircons, radio playing, comfy seats...you will feel like cyclist should give way to you, look out for you rather then the you doing the opposite.

However when i am cycling i feel that cars and bus especially taxi drivers should look out for us.

All of us are road users, just because you drive a merc and never get to experience the joy of cycling doesnt means you own the road and you can do whatever you like.

Lets just look out for one another and make the road a better place to drive/cycle on!

[itsher]

not only that, a lot of pedestrains are walking on the road created for the cyclist when they got their own pedestrain paths

[nutcase23]

Originally Posted by itsher

not only that, a lot of pedestrains are walking on the road created for the cyclist when they got their own pedestrain paths

EXACTLY

You've got a cyclist road and a pedestrian road side by side and you see a pedestrian walk dead center of the cyclist road. Very tempted to do a near pass just to scare the shit of of them.

[Unclemun]

Originally Posted by itsher

not only that, a lot of pedestrains are walking on the road created for the cyclist when they got their own pedestrain paths

Dun agree. Been walking. pedestrians only walk on road when there is no footpath, or the footpath is blocked.

[beyondgadgets]

cyclist don't pay road tax, why are you on the road?

singapore roads are not build with cyclist in mind. the minister say before liao.

[nutcase23]

Originally Posted by beyondgadgets

cyclist don't pay road tax, why are you on the road?

singapore roads are not build with cyclist in mind. the minister say before liao.

Okay, if cyclists are not supposed to be on the road, then we are to be on the foot paths? So what are we to do when pedestrians complain that we should be on the road?

Note that not everywhere has cyclist paths.

Originally Posted by Unclemun

Dun agree. Been walking. pedestrians only walk on road when there is no footpath, or the footpath is blocked.

I've seen plenty of people walking on the cyclist paths. Notably Pasir Ris since that's where I cycle often.

[normoh]

Learn to give and take la....

Only i cannot accept are those cyclist who cycle like they own the road,dun care of traffic rules even if its just basic commom sense.

[beyondgadgets]

cyclist go park lor. east coast park etc.

not that i am trying to anger cyclist but as a driver, there are SO many cyclist there don't care about their own lives, they just weave in and out on the road like they are motor cycles, but their speeds are slow compared to cars / motor and its very difficult to brake in time.

let me give you a example.
at a junction, car going to turn right. but we do know the right side pedestrian crossing is green at the same time.

usually car will wait for on coming traffic (going straight in opposite direction) and the pedestrian crossing to clear.
we know human walking or even running speed. out of no where cyclist just zoom to cross the crossing. its TMD dangerous lor

some rules should be set if cyclist want to use the roads.
like using pedestrian and overhead bridges, they should play the role of pedestrian, dismount and push the bike.
but i don't think this will ever happen, esp in singapore.

[beyondgadgets]

pedestrian walking on cyclist path deserve to be knocked by cyclist.

if really goona choose out of 2 evils,
would you choose cyclist on pedestrian pathOR
cyclist on the roads?

bear in mind cyclist knock into pedstrian result in INJURY
car knock into cyclist result in FATALITY

[ORiN]

Originally Posted by Unclemun

Dun agree. Been walking. pedestrians only walk on road when there is no footpath, or the footpath is blocked.

Dead wrong. A lot of Singaporeans just seem to enjoy doing the opposite. They walk on the cyclist path instead of their pedestrians pavement.

[ssian84]

i have encountered one ugly incident while cycling a single path...
this couple was walking while i was cycling...
i'm perfectly fine to slow down and not to overtake them as to catch my breathe... then the man saw me behind, but continued to walk side by side with his wife as if they own the whole path, disallowing me to overtake them...
although they continued to walk for a min or so, i just followed with making a noise or whatsoever... then came a bus-stop where there's enough space for me to go aroundabout to overtake them... while doing so, i heard them saying, "can't even say excuse me" in an unsound tone...
the issue was, if singaporeans are gracious enough, they will just give way to us... those two are just ulgy...

[simplyadvanced]

never cycle against the traffic

[Righteouz]

Singaporeans are very proud. Let me state some facts first, I am a singaporean, and yes, I am guilty as charge too. The point I am trying to put forward is that must rules be enforced, e.g. fines, penalties, just so that we can live.

Yes, there is a "cyclist" road and "pedestrian" path as stated in the thread, though I am not sure who coined these terms. Is it so difficult just to give way, how big is one person? just move to one side and both pedestrian and cyclist will "have their way."